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Old 04-16-2021, 10:47 PM   #21
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Nice!

I've often wondered why the Z cars don't hold their values.

Someone told me once that it was because the Mustang GT is faster. I don't really understand that logic. There is always something faster somewhere.

Sweet looking machine.

I've been looking at Frontiers. Like you, I'm wanting something low mileage, 2012 or up (the early 4.0 engines had issues), 4x4, King Cab (never personally cared for the looks of a quad cab truck), and the manual transmission. I've seen a few that fit that description, but they are always a long drive.
I had a 2011 frontier and my dad has a 2014. I loved mine other than the payment. It had almost exactly the same horsepower to weight ratio as my 2004 Titan. My dad loves his 2014. Both are crew cabs. I canít imagine how enjoyable a 4.0 in a king cab would be.

As far as I know the only issues with the early 4.0 wasnít the engine itself but the radiator crapping out and ruining the transmission. I think they cleared all that up around 2009?
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Old 04-16-2021, 11:32 PM   #22
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I understand the newer Frontiers with the 3.8 are better than the 4.0's
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As far as I know the only issues with the early 4.0 wasnít the engine itself but the radiator crapping out and ruining the transmission. I think they cleared all that up around 2009?
That's correct. It's called the SMOD (Strawberry Milkshake Of Death). The good thing is, if you catch it before it happens, all you need to do is replace the radiator. That only cost me about $150 for the 2008 Xterra.

Replacing the timing chain, on the other hand, was a chore. That new 4.0 isn't designed to come apart like the KA24e or the VG30. It cost $2000 to have that done by a non-Nissan shop. The timing chain issue was worked out by 2012, which is why I'm focusing on those years.

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I loved mine other than the payment.
And I don't know if anyone makes vehicles with a manual transmission option anymore. Automatic transmissions cost more to make and there is more residual income in the maintenance of them. I think manufacturers just decided to stop making them.
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The 2021 Toyota Tacoma TRD Pro has the option of a 6-spd. manual transmission...
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The 2021 Toyota Tacoma TRD Pro has the option of a 6-spd. manual transmission...
Blasphemy! Lol
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I am pretty sure you can buy a small house in some parts of the country for less than a new Tacoma costs. Used Toyota trucks are also stupidly overpriced for what they are. And I say that as someone who is a huge fan of their cars.
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Blasphemy is correct!

I just wish that Nissan would offer a manual transmission on any model Frontier. It would level the playing field a bit more for Nissan and those folks looking exclusively for a manual transmission on their newer model truck or car for that matter.

The Tacos are overpriced. But they’ve built their reputation on reliability and in the “Gas War” days, mpg. This has been a tag line forever for Toyota and the general public knows this as fact.

In Los Angeles County. You could buy a mobile home for the price of a new ‘Yota Taco. But if those were my 2 choices. I would go with the Taco and not think twice about it.
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