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Old 05-21-2022, 05:34 AM   #1
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Question 2wd axle swap for C200

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Since I can't find the gearing I want for my H190 axle/diff, I came up on a C200 axle out of a 91' 4x4 hardbody. I put 31" tires on my 92' 2wd so the 4.11 gearing in the C200 will work perfect.


Any guides on this axle swap? Big thing is the C200 has springs mounted above the axle whereas H190 has it below axle. I don't want this to lift the rear so would I need a flip kit? (like https://www.x2industries.com/product...axle-flip-kit/)

I'm getting the driveshaft with the C200 so the diff flange will match fine. Anything else I should know? Just don't want to have to weld anything if possible.

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Looks like it would work.

FYI, H233Bs had 4.3 and 4.6 gears too.
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Looks like it would work.

FYI, H233Bs had 4.3 and 4.6 gears too.
Yeah Iím curious too about the H233B h190 swap. Would I need a new driveshaft?
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You may need to swap the flange on the axle side of the driveline but I'm not sure. Regardless, if you find a H233 in the same body truck grab the driveline too. they were found in V6 trucks and pathys 2wd or 4wd up to 95.
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I went from a C200 to an H233B and the flange mated up. Problem was the distance from flange face to center of axle.

That's something you may want to check on the 190 and 200. If that distance is longer on the C200 it may put you in a bind. Not saying it is different, just saying to check.


Aside from that, welding on a new set of spring perches is not a huge deal if you have a welder.
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Old 05-25-2022, 01:27 AM   #6
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What was the stock ratio in yours, 3.55, 3.7? 4.11 would be appropriate if 3.55, but you'll probably want the 4.3 options if the 4cyl could benefit from a little more pep. C200 will support R200 gears, so pretty easy to find other options if needed.

I put a H233B from a D21 V6 2WD into my 98 Frontier w/ H190. Liked that approach because the axle was already leaf-under, right perch width, allowed putting an LSD in (plus other locker options), and has WD21 disc brakes. Small gear change from 3.7 to 3.9, too, and should I lift it again, so simple to swap 3rd members.

For the driveshaft, get the donor flange. It should use the same u-joint as yours, so it'll fit your driveshaft no problem. That's what I did on mine. I also shortened my driveshaft a small amount, but that's because mine sits a little lower these days. Since you're lifted, the longer C200 or H233B snout should offset it nicely.

If going with that spring-over C200, I'd probably just go with a set of weld-on spring perches instead, even if that means finding someone to weld them on. It'd be cheaper and far better than that drop kit, IMO.
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C200 axle got here today, going with this instead of the H233. http://imgur.com/gallery/vR1ASxG (not pictured is the donor driveshaft and flange)

dvdswan you're right about the flange, i got the donor flange b/c H190 doesn't quite match.

Hawairish, stock ratio was 3.54. Hoping 4.11 gives me enough pep. R200 4.3 gears are upwards of $800 new. I'd need to do some research for a used set if I ever want to switch over. some ebay ones for $400.


When you put the H233B into your frontier w/ h190, was it any harder than doing a C200 into H190?

Since I've got the C200 in hand and couldn't find an H233b locally, i'll first try going spring-over and remove my leaf spring helper to try and match my original lift. I don't have a welder so if I decide to do spring under, I'd need to find some weld on perches and calculate pinion angle and all that and take it to a shop :/ we'll see how it goes w/ spring over first. Probably will need longer rear shocks w/ spring over. ah too many decisions lol

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Right on.

Putting in either axle shouldn't be difficult...same things need to be done. Presuming your H190 has the snout-mounted ABS like that C200, you can just plug into it and retain rear ABS. Same can be done with the H233B provided you get a non-4wd version that'll also have the snout ring; 4wd had ABS sensors on the axle tubes.

Of course, if your axle came without brake hardware and lines, that might be a problem. Anything missing from the axle?

$400-$800 for C200/R200 gears is pretty high. If you do reach that point, let's chat. I may have a set somewhere, otherwise yards here charge $150 for diffs/3rds around here.

Projects like this are a great opportunity to go pick up a cheap welder and try. The $430 for that flip kit also buys a flux core welder, mask, gloves, angle grinder, a pack of cut off and grinding/flap discs, and wire cups from Harbor Freight, and still leaves room for weld-on perches and lunch. Some practice goes a long way, of course. Just a thought.
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Luckily all brake lines and hardware came with the axle. He did mention not having the splitter for the brake line. i'll figure that out fine though i'm sure.



I browsed pick n pull up here in seattle and found some old pathfinders that should have a swappable 3rd member. Definitely worth looking into down the road.



Thanks for the advice with the welding. This hobby build is taking me into places where I would really like to know welding. I'm going to think more about that list of parts and start looking around / learning.
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Took your advice and bought a beginner welding setup. After some practice and learning it’ll be good for the spring perches and actually I’ll be able to finally build a new exhaust. Might have to do some welding to finish the 3” body lift as well
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