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Old 12-10-2018, 04:32 AM   #981
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the shocckwave and mossbergs in general are the absolutely shittiest shotgins in the world.



its mediocre advertising and that theyve flooded the market.
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Old 12-10-2018, 03:30 PM   #982
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Yeah, PGO SBS guns are pretty useless. With a stock though, an SBS is an amazing little tool. Sure you're not going to go hunting with it, but for defense it's probably the best thing (as long as you don't mind possibly making a few extra holes in your wall lol).


I used mine in 3-gun competitions and still did fine even with it only holding 4 in the tube. Most of those competitions require you to just put 1 pellet on the clay pigeon so sometimes i could get as many as 3 with 1 shot lol. With buckshot in it it's pretty devastating. It's been a while since I did a test, but it seems like the effective range was about 25 yards before the shot pattern opened up so much it wouldn't do much.


This is my Maverick 88 with 12" barrel. Cut the mag tube down to get the barrel length that short. Had to cut the forearm down as well. The most annoying part was moving the bit that holds the mag tube to the barrel.
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Old 12-10-2018, 05:37 PM   #983
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the shocckwave and mossbergs in general are the absolutely shittiest shotgins in the world.



its mediocre advertising and that theyve flooded the market.

I still put them above modern day Remington anything since they don't have a recall before release, work and don't rust before making it to the FFL.
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I don't mess with any of Remington's pump stuff. The mechanism is too complex so you have to pump them with the fury of a thousand suns unless it's 100% clean and perfectly lubricated. And yeah, the rusting is annoying. You just look at it wrong and it rusts. I've shot several 870 and I just don't like them. Heavy, stiff, rusty, overpriced nonsense IMO. I'd hunt with my 108 year old Winchester 97 before using another 870 lol.


Regarding Mossy:
I've currently got 2 Mossberg pumps and that old Maverick. That Maverick cost me less than $100. Supposedly the guy that sold it to me dropped it in a lake and forgot about it. When they found it later the barrel had rusted through where it was stuck in the mud. I took it home and cleaned it, then stamped it and hacked the barrel off. I've put who knows how many rounds through it with nae a problem. For pump guns that will actually be used, Mossy is all I go to.
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Old 12-10-2018, 08:29 PM   #985
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100% benelli guy here.



ive seen mossbergs that had misaligned timing. as the action came back, the "shell lifter" (dont know what its called) rose before the shell was released from the bue and it just fell on the floor. how the fuck does that even happen?
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Hahaha! That's a funny one! I'd love to have seen the face of the shooter then he pumps in another round and it plops on the ground!



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mmmmmmmm a Benelli M4 is one of the shotties on my "one day..." list.



Sounds like one (or both) of the little rail pieces that holds the shells in the tube could be damaged or lost. The gun will go back together and operate without them installed, so that's a possibility. That would be operator error during disassembly/cleaning unless whoever built the gun at the plant broke something and just didn't care enough to remedy it before shipping it out lol.
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Old 12-10-2018, 09:00 PM   #988
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the semi autos from benelli are pretty cool. a local shop had a M2 convertible on the shelf for like years...i wanted it and was going to get it till i read that the purpose of it being a convertible is for low velocity shells like rubber balls. it wasnt really designed to be a failsafe in the event of like a "short stroke" from the autoloading system.
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