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Old 01-12-2017, 02:19 AM   #11
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Holy crap I had no idea getting a decent lift out of a hard body would be this hard. My RC 2" is advertised at 1.5 to 2" that's where my 3" control arm idea came from. Thanks for the clarification
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Old 01-12-2017, 02:59 AM   #12
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No one really makes a 1" body lift. I don't think my 87 looked bad with the 3", yes you see the frame but it didn't bother me.

you can see the frame in my pic below, this was my former 87 with suspension and 3" body lift on 35's:




same truck later in it's life on 33's

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If you climb under the truck and understand the way the torsion bars work you will see what I mean.
These modern pickups are all the exact same way but full size trucks use drop brackets to drop the differentials to get 6" or 8" of lift. Those trucks don't gain any ground clearance with the drop bracket lift kits either, they're meant to stay on the street. There's just more aftermarket support.

Anything with independent front suspension will work exactly the same way unless you're building an ultra4 racer.
If you want anything over 3-4" of lift on any small truck (ranger,b3000,frontier,tacoma,dakota ) you're either gonna have to do drop brackets or solid axle swap because the IFS wasn't designed to be modified.

If you just want to stuff 33" tires on it, I'd just keep what you have and do a small body lift.
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Just for curiosity, the lifts on 4x4parts.com that advertise "true 3in of lift" have torsion bars in the lift package. If changing the bars has nothing to do with ride height, why put them in the package, why not just use the factory bars like my Rough Coutry that advertised 1.5" to 2" of lift??
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Ahardbody, that truck looks sick and all I want is 33's under my truck, and modify I guess my RC 2" to a 3". I was told by a shop that only RC makes a lift for my truck and it's only a 2" so I bought it then on here I found out 3"ers are on 4x4parts.com. My RC is less than a year old, I don't want to replace it. I'm trying to figure out a shop to put on a body lift. Literally no shop in my area will install one. From Off-Road specific shops to general mechanic shops have all turned me away. I have very little knowledge on this. I think I could have a decent conversation about it, but installing shit makes me worry on messing my truck up. I installed my RC lift, but I followed the instructions and had Schwabs align it. Besides that I haven't done much of anything like this. Everyone saying no to a body lift instal makes me wonder if I could do it lol. That's why I've been trying so hard to get around a body lift and the cost of an SAS that I wouldn't even come close to needing

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Some kits add torsion bars to stiffen up your spring rate. The factory bars are weak and "squishy" and these aftermarket bars will stiffen up your ride. They both do exactly the same thing, you can get 3" of lift with both sets of torsion bars.

Body lift is pretty easy to install, like I said 1" or 2" is less work than a 3". Most body lift kits will come with instructions as to where everything goes and there are write-ups you can follow to do the work yourself
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as to the body lift, if the truck is an automatic, the shifter uses a cable so nothing to do with that, for the manual trans the shifter will just sit lower, for the transfer case shifter on my former 87 (pictured above) we heated and bent the shifter so it would go into 4 low with out any problems, some people notch the floor slightly to get 4 low.

When I went down to 33's I left everything the same as it was when I had the 35's
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Sooo when I index the bars a bit, do that with the truck jacked off the ground right??
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index or adjust? I do it with the truck on the ground, some say if you raise the truck it takes the weight off the bar, never had a problem doing it on the ground.
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Old 01-14-2017, 10:18 PM   #20
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Coo thx, I thought it was the same thing.... lol, tighten/adjust
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