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Old 10-07-2018, 12:13 AM   #1
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Hey everyone! Noob here. I just bought a 1997 King Cab Extended body 4X4 with 143k mi. Almost no rust as the truck was in Oregon Most of its life and then has been sitting for over 2 years in owners' driveway. The truck needs a good washing to remove all the "green" growth from the body. I knew that that the gas was bad as you could smell it 30ft away. Battery was dead so I put in a good one to hotwire the fuel pump but nothing came out. Now I am thinking that the pump may be bad too? I took off the tank coffin and I did see a pin hole on the bottom and some gas was still leaking. Surprised as the tank looks pretty good. I searched the net for quite awhile and came across a few things but pretty old. So my questions are:

1: Are there any sources for new OEM or aftermarket tanks?
2: Should use some sort of tank repair kit?
3: Should I just get one from the JY if they don't drill holes in them?
4: Should I remove bed to remove tank?
5: What else should I replace while I am doing this job? Entire Fuel Pump assembly or just the pump?
6: Anything else?
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Old 10-07-2018, 12:27 AM   #2
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Welcome. I was born and raised in western PA so if you have a rust free version in your neck of the woods, congratulations. It's always nice to see pictures of the trucks, IMGUR.com is a good place to host yours if you have any.

Use compressed air to clean out the fuel lines, change the filter as well. Then try again. Your fuel pump might just need cleaned out. I've seen hardbodies with the bed removed at local pick-n-pulls, if I ever have to fiddle with the gas tank, the beds coming off.

I haven't had to repair a fuel tank but know others have used POR15 to reseal theirs or just send it out locally where you live to have it cleaned and resealed. Aftermarket gas tank? I don't know of any manufacturers. Anything you find locally in a JY might be worse than what you already have.

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1 - yes aftermarket available, not sure of quality or fitment. You got some room for making new brackets, but how annoying. OEM, not so sure, junkyards in USA often stick holes in them, dont buy those.

2 - no dont use tank repair kit unless its done professionally. You only want to ideally drop a tank to fix it once every 25 odd years.

3 - have to remove bed.

4 - replace EVERYTHING. you dont want to go back there again. You cant replace the entire fuel pump assembly, its just a bracket/frame anyway holding on the sender and fuel pump.

Just send off your tank to a tank repair specialist. Ask for the WORKS. It should be an air clean, hydro clean, chemical clean, sealer, chemical sealer, chemical proofer, inner coat, baked, outer painted and final seal, then tested. They should provide a warranty, mine was life, but the states does things a little different to down under.
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Thanks for the input. I found a national tank repair place nearby so I will check them out Monday. In the mean time I will start taking off the bed. Are there any fuel pump assembly brands that I should get or stay away from? Any particular place to get?

Here is my truck. Diamond in the rough!
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Are there any fuel pump assembly brands that I should get or stay away from? Any particular place to get?

Here is my truck. Diamond in the rough!
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Looks like a great score! Congratulations!

Any brand is fine - as long as the brand is listed. Avoid the ones that do not list a brand name.
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Most brands are noisier than oem, so dont get alarmed by that.
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while OEM might be a little more expensive, i think they are probably pretty good. most of them average 25 years of service before they die. the big killer is running the tank on a constant low level and not changing the fuel filter every so often. the fuel keeps the pump cool. they can overheat in extreme circumstances.
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I got one for 90 aud, but oem was 2 weeks wait and like 280
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Hey everyone! Noob here. I just bought a 1997 King Cab Extended body 4X4 with 143k mi. Almost no rust as the truck was in Oregon Most of its life and then has been sitting for over 2 years in owners' driveway. The truck needs a good washing to remove all the "green" growth from the body. I knew that that the gas was bad as you could smell it 30ft away. Battery was dead so I put in a good one to hotwire the fuel pump but nothing came out. Now I am thinking that the pump may be bad too? I took off the tank coffin and I did see a pin hole on the bottom and some gas was still leaking. Surprised as the tank looks pretty good. I searched the net for quite awhile and came across a few things but pretty old. So my questions are:

1: Are there any sources for new OEM or aftermarket tanks?

Robert suggests: Just fix the tank you have now, and do it professionally.

2: Should use some sort of tank repair kit?

NO. See #1

3: Should I just get one from the JY if they don't drill holes in them?

Robert suggests: They are required to do that in a lot of states. Don't get one from the junkyard. Get the one fixed you have NOW.

4: Should I remove bed to remove tank?

If you do this and agree to re-install it after a repair, your repair bill will be cheaper. If you actually BRING the tank to them for repair, it will be even cheaper than that. Pull the tank, let them fix it for you.

5: What else should I replace while I am doing this job? Entire Fuel Pump assembly or just the pump?

Robert suggests: Fuel pump and anything bad you see. Just inspect everything once the bed is off, make a list of parts and work, do that work either before or after you have the tank fixed.

6: Anything else?
Yes. Buy a cheap code reader from Amazon. Welcome to the 1996-97 club. Fuel injection by fuel rail, a computer you can plug into to down by your fuse box. Change the oil by putting in a quart of high-quality additive first, and filling up the rest. Replace all tune up parts ASAP. Cap, rotor, wires, plugs. Pull seats and clean interior from headliner to carpet. Replace the fuel filter and any bad hoses you see, air or water. Consider dumping your gear oil and replacing it, same with the rear end. Worry about the body last, but get the dirt and crap off it, and keep it off until you get around to spicing up the body and adding lights or something.

I'm happy for you. Nice score. With that many miles (not much) on your truck, it's WORTH fixing. Trust me on this.
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Old 10-09-2018, 12:15 AM   #10
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Thanks all! Back to the drawing board! Looked at getting inside of tank cleaned sealed and refurbished and it would have cost $700-800. Never mind that! Now looking for a new tank and I can't find one. Anybody have a place of where to get one? I called a online dealer and they gave me part numbers 172028b400 for the tank, which it looks like it is for a Frontier. Also 174203s500 & 174263s500 for the new brackets. The OEM cost would be around $800-900! WTF that is almost what I paid for the truck. I found the tank but it is Spectra Premium NS19B Fuel Tank and has the same part number. Any thoughts on that?

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