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Old 09-25-2013, 01:14 AM   #1
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Okay so I know there have been hundreds of threads talking about this but none of them seem to clarify whats up.

I have a 86 hardbody, idk if it is a d21 or a 720. The title was issued 9/02/1986 it has the single headlight on each side with the hi/lo combo so I think it is a d21?? It has the z24 in it maybe someone can clarify that for me please?

Anyways I was wondering what years gauge cluster I can swap into this thing. It has no tach which bothers me so i'd like to change it out!

i.e. will a 720 gauge cluster work and up to what year will a d21 cluster work and will there be wiring complications?

Any help with that would be greatly appreciated! Thanks guys
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I may be wrong, but...I think any of the square dash clusters will fit directly except for the one with round gauges. That one uses a speed sensor instead of a cable.
You will have to switch the cluster harness as well - however you'd have to wire the SMJ to support any new accessories.
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I may be wrong, but...I think any of the square dash clusters will fit directly except for the one with round gauges. That one uses a speed sensor instead of a cable.
You will have to switch the cluster harness as well - however you'd have to wire the SMJ to support any new accessories.
thank you! so what years did the square gauge cluster start and stop? if you might know that one lol
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Square dash started with the 86.5 - last regular square I think was 91 or so...
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you most likely have a D21 by the sounds of it, 95% of 1986.5 D21 have Z24i, a very limited amount of 86.5 D21 carried over the carbeurated Z24 from 720

i actually just saw your other thread, you do have a D21. any idea if it was converted from EFI to carb? because as far as i know, nobody on the site has a factory carb D21
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you most likely have a D21 by the sounds of it, 95% of 1986.5 D21 have Z24i, a very limited amount of 86.5 D21 carried over the carbeurated Z24 from 720

i actually just saw your other thread, you do have a D21. any idea if it was converted from EFI to carb? because as far as i know, nobody on the site has a factory carb D21
well this motor has a weber carb on it....so it is just the z24, maybe it is the 720 but the lights don't make sense???
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you most likely have a D21 by the sounds of it, 95% of 1986.5 D21 have Z24i, a very limited amount of 86.5 D21 carried over the carbeurated Z24 from 720

i actually just saw your other thread, you do have a D21. any idea if it was converted from EFI to carb? because as far as i know, nobody on the site has a factory carb D21
I honestly have no idea if it was converted. What would be some hints that it was converted??
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720 look like this, you 100% have a D21



im not good with carbs so i dont know what to look for it was converted, i think the carb Z24 had Hitachi carbs factory so either someone converted your engine from EFI to carb or you got one of the rare factory carb D21 and someone swapped out the carb for a Weber
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720 look like this, you 100% have a D21



im not good with carbs so i dont know what to look for it was converted, i think the carb Z24 had Hitachi carbs factory so either someone converted your engine from EFI to carb or you got one of the rare factory carb D21 and someone swapped out the carb for a Weber
thanks for the d21 confirmation man! glad I can be reassured it is! do you have any info on the gauge question I had??
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no idea, i know late 80s Hondas that didnt have tach factory still had the wiring tucked behind the cluster so you could get a cluster with a tach and plug it right in.

720 gauge cluster are completely different looking than D21

as far as i know 1990+ models with KA24 have different gauge cluster as well, so my best guess is you can only use 1986-1989 D21 gauge clusters. whether the tach will just plug in or not i dont know. worst case you can wire in a small aftermarket tach, thats the easiest option

i had this installed where my radio used to be in mine. tach, water temperature, and AFR

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