Go Back   Infamous Nissan - Hardbody / Frontier Forums > Model Specific > Hardbody Forum (D21)

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-28-2017, 08:18 PM   #1
street_rulerr
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: West Coast
Posts: 1,849
Vehicle: 1996 4x4 5spd
Thanks: 0
Thanked 132 Times in 126 Posts
Default 4x4 transmission removal without pulling shifter?

on a later model 4x4 5spd, can you pull the transmission and transfer case without pulling the shift lever out first? curious if theres enough play in that boot to do so.
street_rulerr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2017, 05:04 AM   #2
XoXSciFiGuy
 
XoXSciFiGuy's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Auburn, WA
Posts: 1,125
Vehicle: 1997 D21 King Cab XE 2WD
Thanks: 41
Thanked 155 Times in 141 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by street_rulerr View Post
on a later model 4x4 5spd, can you pull the transmission and transfer case without pulling the shift lever out first? curious if theres enough play in that boot to do so.
Probably could get the transmission LOOSE, but due to length of imput shaft, probably NOT enough room to pull the tranny all the way back and out without removing the shifter. And think about putting it back IN...you would have to raise the truck PDH ('pretty damn high') for the shifter to clear the bottom of the truck. Of course, you could lay it down sideways and sort of lift and turn it...but I think the easiest way is to remove the shifter.

If in doubt, Check With God. (Factory Service Manual. "We are not worthy...")
__________________

1997 King Cab XE, 5-sp, canopy, AC/PS, KA24E, 114,000 miles. Need a technical manual? Drop me a message. Chilton's for amateurs.
XoXSciFiGuy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2017, 05:05 AM   #3
jp2code
Software Developer
 
jp2code's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Longview, TX [USA]
Age: 49
Posts: 8,784
Vehicle: 94 LB 2x4 Manual VG33e
Thanks: 1,267
Thanked 1,093 Times in 964 Posts
Default

Cut a big slit down the floorboard.
__________________
Joe (not a mechanic!) Don't have an account? EMAIL ME
Free Service Manuals: https://ownersmanuals2.com/make/nissan
Walk-through: Checking Nissan Trouble Codes
1994 VG30E to VG33E with H256 Cams

jp2code is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2017, 12:45 PM   #4
synbiotic12
 
synbiotic12's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Newfoundland
Posts: 2,160
Vehicle: 2004 Frontier 2WD (sold), 1993 D21 4x4
Thanks: 96
Thanked 309 Times in 252 Posts
Default

it can be done if you're willing to cut out the exhaust with a sawzall and weld it back in when you're done.
__________________
1993 D21 SE-V6, 4x4, X-cab
syn's 4x4 project build
2004 Frontier 4cyl, 2wd, X-cab (Sold)
2007 Subaru Impreza wagon 2.5i
synbiotic12 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2017, 03:58 PM   #5
Reserector
the Flaming Marshmallow
 
Reserector's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Laurel, MS
Posts: 1,399
Vehicle: Nissan HB KC 4x4
Thanks: 10
Thanked 313 Times in 252 Posts
Default

Removing the shift lever is pretty easy.

1. Remove the big boot in the cab.
2. Clean the crud off the top of the transmission so none falls inside when you open it.
3. remove the four bolts from the flange. (12mm socket)
4. Carefully lift the entire assembly up while watching for a small spring that may or may not be under the flange. If you have a spring in yours, just carefully remove it and set it aside. I never encountered that, but have read about it, so just be mindful of it.
5. Stuff a clean rag in there to keep dirt out.
6. Order a fresh boot and nylon tip for the shifter assembly if your parts are worn or missing. I'm referring to the small rubber boot that goes over the shifter and onto the flange, not the interior boot. it keeps dirt out of the shifter ball. The nylon tip is a piece that snaps onto the tip of the shifter that engages the internal linkage. Both parts are cheap and necessary.

The advantages to removing the shifter this way are that it is simpler than messing with snap rings, and it becomes easy to pour the new oil in from the top if you end up replacing the oil. (Strictly GL4 fluid)
Reserector is offline   Reply With Quote
Thanked by:
Hardbody92 (12-19-2017)
Old 11-29-2017, 06:08 PM   #6
cadillacdude1975
The Gear Jammer
 
cadillacdude1975's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Chattanooga, TN
Age: 46
Posts: 8,758
Vehicle: 87 D21 SE KC V6 2wd 5sp & 86.5 V6 SE auto
Thanks: 315
Thanked 967 Times in 896 Posts
Default

does the 4 clinder transmission use the C clips that hold the shifter in the trans? i know the V6 does. and removing those are a mofo without a good set of c clip pliers.
__________________
"Im officially lost" - wildbill
cadillacdude1975 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2017, 06:40 PM   #7
SBJ
Total Buzzkill
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: OR
Posts: 1,656
Vehicle: '90 D21 4cyl 5spd 2wd
Thanks: 174
Thanked 196 Times in 179 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillacdude1975 View Post
does the 4 clinder transmission use the C clips that hold the shifter in the trans? i know the V6 does. and removing those are a mofo without a good set of c clip pliers.
Sure does. It's one large snap ring. I used my shitty harbor freight snap ring pliers and a screwdriver to hold the ring after the pliers slipped out lol.
SBJ is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2017, 07:43 PM   #8
street_rulerr
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: West Coast
Posts: 1,849
Vehicle: 1996 4x4 5spd
Thanks: 0
Thanked 132 Times in 126 Posts
Default

yah i know how to pull the shift lever bbut i dont want to take the carpet out of the truck to do it. i cant get hte carpet to slip off the boot.

whats the exhaust have to do with anything?

also do s13 flywheels fit our trucks? i like to get a second flywheel pre-machined so i dont have to wait on the machine shop when i do transmission work.
street_rulerr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2017, 08:18 PM   #9
Reserector
the Flaming Marshmallow
 
Reserector's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Laurel, MS
Posts: 1,399
Vehicle: Nissan HB KC 4x4
Thanks: 10
Thanked 313 Times in 252 Posts
Default

Can you remove the metal boot ring and slit the corners of the hole in the carpet where the ring will cover it? I recall having to do that the first time. That was years ago, though.
Reserector is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2017, 06:45 PM   #10
highest_vision
 
highest_vision's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Emigrant MT
Posts: 259
Vehicle: 1995 Hardbody
Thanks: 28
Thanked 31 Times in 29 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by street_rulerr View Post
yah i know how to pull the shift lever bbut i dont want to take the carpet out of the truck to do it.
Seriously, what was Nissan's thinking here?
__________________
James
1995 Hardbody XE 4x4 5 speed
1985 720 Z24 5 speed
Several 2 wheeled things

highest_vision is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 01:53 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.