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Old 08-09-2021, 05:18 PM   #1
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Old 08-09-2021, 06:39 PM   #2
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Hybrid? Electric? Hahahah! Count me out!
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Electric? "and blindly hopes it could be electric."... REALLY?

I'll pass also. Not proven enuf for me...

just to mention it: saw a vid about a Tesla owner carrying around a Honda portable generator, so he could drive further. OMG... that thing is running inside the trunk of the car and the fumes... who knows! Some peoples kids!
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I like the idea of an electric truck, but doubt I'll ever buy one. The battery lifespan is off putting to me. They seem better suited for the type of person that gets a new car every 5 or 6 years.
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Old 08-10-2021, 01:40 PM   #5
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I'd love to get an electric truck, but ONLY if it was bare bones simple as it should be. Like 10 wires in the thing with a schematic that I could replace and troubleshoot stuff myself.
That will never happen sadly.

I don't want any TV's in it, wifi, bluetooth, driverless crap, GPS, 1000 different sound honking features, push button door openers, keyfobs, or any fancy extra garbage.
Just give me a steering wheel, 4 tires, drive train, and a variable speed motor should do it. Maybe a seat, windshield and some headlights
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I'm with you there rockcrawls. Modern trucks have too much crap in them. I was pretty excited about the Ford Maverick until I saw the interior. I don't need touch screens and crap. Give me vinyl floors and power locks/windows and I'm good.
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I like the idea of an electric powered truck.

Torque for days! Pulling/hauling power would be remarkable! Even off the line acceleration would be really fun too! I like the idea of a “sleeper truck” that just has awesome response when the pedal is pushed. Maybe a dual motor design would really kick it up a notch or three.

Bare bones model for me as well. My ‘97 HB is exactly the way I wanted it when I purchased it way back in 02/1997. No back up cameras, GPS, self driving, no vanity lights on the visors, no cross traffic crap, lane departure bs either. Just a straight up truck that does what it’s built to do. There are drawbacks to it though.
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IMPO, a pickup truck has one task in life... HAUL SHIT!
I guess... electric or not, if it can do this, effectively, it may not matter...

I've also seen the regressions of the battery and I'm also not sold on the idea. Again, give me a battery with a life span of 20 years, that will hold a GOOD charge for that duration and I'll consider it. As it stands now, the batteries are the one shortcoming that keeps me away from electric. Consider I started in the IT world, back in 85'... I've seen much tech advancement, but not all is how it looks!

The wifes Honda Civic HYBRID taught me a hard lesson. This car will never pay us back for the ongoing battery issues! In 08' she tossed 35+K towards being a beta tester for Honda. Never again! (yep, just proving that I'm another stupid human! Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr...)
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Right, the batteries are my biggest hold up. If they made the batteries easily user-serviceable on the per-cell level it would be different. As it stands for most EV you have to pretty much take the whole car apart and then cut the batteries open to get to the cells to attempt to test/replace dead ones. Of course all of that voids warranties and such.


I'm really interested in electric motorcycles, but for 4 wheeled things I'm not sold on it. If I was making middle 6 figures a year where the occasional 5 figure repair wasn't a big deal it might be different.
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Electric makes good torque.



I look at electric vehicles like this:


Battery life is poor. A few years. Harsh conditions make it deteriorate faster. Cost to replace is astronomical.



Infrastructure is lacking. Get ready to make your day trip take 3 days because you have to charge and gotta do it with an extension cord. Best case you are stuck adding another hour to your trip to charge. This is way worse when in a hurry. Maybe you gotta make it to the hospital but the car is charging.



Now, actually putting it to work. Yeah, it might tow the planet. Your 200 mile range might be 50 miles when doing that. TFL has a few videos of that with their Tesla.



Run it like a train to be efficient.



Electric is interesting but nothing but a gimic at this point.
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