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Old 01-19-2022, 08:39 PM   #1
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I got a 92 standard d21 4x4 king cab a while ago. It had 170,000 miles, 4x4 works great, had new mud tires. He wanted 2800, but I got it for 2400.

Now admittedly I nor the person that came with me thought to look at the frame, and we kind of got swindled. The rest of the car is great, and I love keeping older cars alive, but despite putting lower ball joints, and a idler arm in I may have to cut my losses?

A shop on the east coast that specializes in rust restoration quoted $4000 in repairs from the photos, but said it might be just too far gone, (for $2000 I might have gone for it).

The other kicker is im not a mechanic, so I can't do most of the repairs myself. I've read people suggest getting a salvaged frame and switching it. Is that just not worth doing at this point, or too expensive?










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Old 01-19-2022, 09:29 PM   #2
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Take it to a few local weld shops in your area. Get estimates on having the bad spots "plated".
What they will do is cut away the frazzled edges, and fabricate steel plates to patch over the open areas. They will make holes in the plates that they can "plug weld" and they will weld all around the outer edges of the plates.


The areas that you are showing are common rust areas. The rear frame is easy to work on with the bed removed. The front part near the radius rods is a little harder to get to, but I did that on my truck many years ago. The front has a couple of layers that hold moisture. The weld shop should cut or grind into that to remove the rust, and then make plates for there as well.


I think if you find a local guy (ask on Facebook for your friends' recommendations) who is willing to tinker on it when he doesn't have any big rush jobs, you can get it done reasonably cheap.

You could buy a welder and do it yourself if you want to learn how to weld first, but it is not a good project to learn on because of all the vertical welds that need to be done. Easy for someone with experience, though, because it doesn't have to be pretty.


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Old 01-19-2022, 11:18 PM   #3
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Thank you for that advice! The back end seems like easier welding (though Im not a welder) I think someone has already welded a plate on it. both front tires do have some cancer which does seem more difficult, but Ill ask around.
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Old 01-19-2022, 11:51 PM   #4
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Welcome to IN...

Interested to see where this takes you. Please keep is posted.

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Frame swaps are doable but a LOT of work. I am starting year 4 of finishing my body swapped nissan pathfinder. Of course I only work on it every couple weeks.
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I don't think I'd have any work done to that frame. How are the floors, they tend to rust away as well. Look for a beater in an area where they don't rust, a dry area in Texas might be the closest to you. Our vehicles don't rust here in Phoenix but that's probably too far away.

I did a quick search for D21 frames on car-parts.com and they have them for less than $500. You have to have a truck, rent a trailer and make a road-trip out of it. Try the Marketplace for Nissan/D21 Hardbodies on Facebook also.

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I embedded the pictures.

If you talk to a welder, be sure to mention to him that the frame is mild steel, so it is easy to weld on. A lot of modern frames use hardened steel to give the frame extra strength, but hardened steel has to be untempered before it can be welded - or the bead just will not stick to it.

The Hardbody frame is simple to weld on or drill holes in.
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Hey, thanks. I appreciate how friendly and helpful that everyone has been. Here's photos of part of the truck... I cropped myself out of the photo which is why part of it's missing.

It seems 6K is the average price for a D21 that doesn't need much work. I saw a 95' with 144K miles for that price, but it wasn't a 4x4 though.

Depending on the cost of a fix up weld job, even if its 2K, I think I'd still come out doing good with the 3K I have in the truck (2400+ 600), vs selling it, taking a loss and still needing to buy a new truck that might also need repairs. I also don't need a truck I can tow with... but moving around dirt, mulch, wood... medium heavy things is what I need.

So the next step is to ask around for trustworthy welders in the area that might need side work

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Check out Craigslist in your area. That's usually got a few welders listed in there.
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It will be maybe a month or so before I have the extra funds for a welder, but Ill update progress as it comes.

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