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Old 03-24-2022, 11:43 PM   #1
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Has anyone with a 98-2000 Frontier changed to LED Headlights? If so, Pros Cons? What brand or Part number. How about Dash lights. Thanks
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Old 03-25-2022, 01:45 AM   #2
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Pros: Nothing


Cons: You blind everyone, become a traffic hazard and maybe even kill someone.



Seriously, drop the PNP LEDs in the garbage where they belong. Putting any bulb that the housing is NOT designed for is not only stupid but federally illegal. There are NO drop in LEDs or HIDs that are DOT approved. By putting something not designed for the housing into the housing you defeat the designed optics which means less light on the road and more light in the eyes of other drivers not to mention mediocre raw lumen output and a poor color for seeing in the dark. A slightly yellow beam is the best for seeing in the dark. Something around a 4300K or lower, to a point. The 5000-6000K+ LEDs are available in have lots of blue content. While your eyes are very sensitive to blue wavelengths in the dark they are very very difficult to focus on in the dark meaning you will miss things because you cannot see it. Go into a dark room and try to focus on a blue LED. Its very difficult. Do the same with red. Very easy (which is one reason why blue dash lights are stupid and dangerous).






Do it properly with a good projector retrofit or dont do it at all. Without a proper retrofit you will be the scattered blinding light on the left in that photo. Do you want to be oncoming traffic to the one on the left or the right?



Think about other people's eyes too. Most folks have astigmatism and dont even know it. More glare means more starburst to them which means seeing you and the road is even harder. I have astigmatism and I am basically blind with people with PNP HIDs and LEDs are oncoming.





No, you CANNOT just "adjust" them. It doesnt work as much as you wish it might. Too much glare and uncontrolled light caused by a light source that is not in the focal point of the optic.
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IMO all these new car headlights should be illegal, even that retrofit style. NHTSA is really dropping the ball and I don't know how they are passing in new cars. They might be great in perfect conditions but any time a car coming at you bounces with those or is not level with you, they blind you momentarily. Not being able to see when a car is coming at you, is dangerous for everyone.
I hope my OEM headlights last forever because they have been adjusted perfect from the day I got them. They point slightly to the right, especially low beams, and high beams are excellent lighting.
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I heard last week that GM lost an appeal with the DOT for really bright headlamps. 750k vehicles covering 2010-2017 must be fixed.

https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/7140029001
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DOT lighting requirements sucks. Europe uses a much better set of requirements for lighting. Europe generally has manual on the fly levelling in cars and auto levelling in more expensive vehicles. The new active levelling takes care of the flashes due to bumps.



People generally associate blinding with bright which is not what bright is. Auto makers can sell cars that have lights that appear bright better than those that appear dim even though in reality the "dim" ones may be better in every way. Couple that with very loose and outdated DOT regulations and you get shitty glaring lights.



You do need some might above the cutoff. That's the light that lets you see street signs. My car has so little that I cannot see street signs until I am right on top of them. It is a bit inconvenient sometimes.
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Pros: Nothing


Cons: You blind everyone, become a traffic hazard and maybe even kill someone.



Seriously, drop the PNP LEDs in the garbage where they belong. Putting any bulb that the housing is NOT designed for is not only stupid but federally illegal. There are NO drop in LEDs or HIDs that are DOT approved. By putting something not designed for the housing into the housing you defeat the designed optics which means less light on the road and more light in the eyes of other drivers not to mention mediocre raw lumen output and a poor color for seeing in the dark. A slightly yellow beam is the best for seeing in the dark. Something around a 4300K or lower, to a point. The 5000-6000K+ LEDs are available in have lots of blue content. While your eyes are very sensitive to blue wavelengths in the dark they are very very difficult to focus on in the dark meaning you will miss things because you cannot see it. Go into a dark room and try to focus on a blue LED. Its very difficult. Do the same with red. Very easy (which is one reason why blue dash lights are stupid and dangerous).






Do it properly with a good projector retrofit or dont do it at all. Without a proper retrofit you will be the scattered blinding light on the left in that photo. Do you want to be oncoming traffic to the one on the left or the right?



Think about other people's eyes too. Most folks have astigmatism and dont even know it. More glare means more starburst to them which means seeing you and the road is even harder. I have astigmatism and I am basically blind with people with PNP HIDs and LEDs are oncoming.





No, you CANNOT just "adjust" them. It doesnt work as much as you wish it might. Too much glare and uncontrolled light caused by a light source that is not in the focal point of the optic.
There has to be a LED that will work, so's Not to Blind on coming Cars! Not talking about a Ebay $29 Cheapo LED. There has to be a Up Grade so You the Driver can see and Not blind on coming Traffic?
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Old 09-01-2022, 09:08 PM   #7
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Awhile back I asked about LED Head Lights. Pretty much got just Negative Comments? To Bright, Blind on coming Cars. Well, I felt My Stock Head Lights were Not Bright enough or safe to drive at Night! So, after doing some Research, I bought some Lasfit LED Head Light Bulbs! 9004 HB1 50 Watt (25 per side) 6000K White. Plug and Play and they are Great! So much Brighter then Stock and they have a pretty good cut off line. Now I can see at night. I have Yet had anyone Flash their lights because My lights are TO bright! My Truck is Lowered 3 inch all round and the Head Lights are adjusted Properly.

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