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Old 09-14-2017, 08:26 AM   #21
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Ah yes you're correct, I meant the 4x4parts lift kit. For pure simplicity, if all I wanted was 2" of travel, would you rather shackle the back or add-a-leaf? And the front, adjust the torsion bar with new control arms?
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Old 09-14-2017, 08:27 AM   #22
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Also do these control arms ever pop up on here for sale? I can't imagine they're incredibly rare.
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Old 09-14-2017, 02:38 PM   #23
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They come up for sale used once in a while, mostly for the 4x4's. You can search on craigslist or E-bay for them also, if an ad doesn't say for 2wd specifically I would be doubtful they are.

The rear, since on a 2wd the leaf springs are below the rear axle tube, the easy way to lift it would be the shackle, 4x4parts has different rear shackles in different amounts of lift, keep in mind the rear of these trucks is already higher than the front and if you lift the rear too much, you will not be able to lift the front enough to make the truck sit level. I am not sure if the 2wd and 4wd rear leaf springs are different as far as the shackles, you could ask 4x4parts.

You could do the add a leaf and the shackle but you may want to ty just the shackles first.

The front, yes you replace the upper control arms, than adjust the bars to set the ride height.
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4x4parts.com has adjustable shackles for the rear that say from 7/8 to 2" of lift:

http://www.4x4parts.com/i-18916668-h...-shackles.html
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Got it. That's probably what I'll do. What I'm hung up on is do I pay $300 or so for brand new control arms, or pay double that for WAY more of a lift kit. I just might do the full on 4x4parts lift.

One more question - you mentioned it's not okay to ride around with the torsion bars fully cranked to max lift. What is it about these new control arms that mean I won't have to crank them down to get the lift I want? I mean isn't lifting the front the same work for the torsion bars no matter what kind of control arms are there?
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The new control arms are made with a slightly different angle that allow you to crank in more height while still being able to have it aligned. The original aftermarket control arms that were available way back were stock arms that had a ball joint spacer welded in and the arms were boxed on the bottom to provide more strength ( I had these on my former 87 4x4) than they came out with the tubular arms, see original ad from original company below, when Jim Connor Racing got out of the Nissan parts business most of his designs went to 4x4 parts:



There is no paying double for way more lift, the control arm lift is the only lift available for the Nissan, Years ago Trailmaster made a 4" suspension but that was 4wd only and it is long discontinued. The rear you can lift different ways but up front you are limited to the arms.

Only other way to get more tire clearance is by doing a body lift or a solid axle swap which people have done on 2wd's but it would be a waste.

You can ride around with the bars cranked to the point of sitting on the bump stops but it will ride like crap.

The other benefit of the aftermarket torsion bars besides being 20% stiffer is they will hold the cranked in amount of lift longer. You have to remember your stock bars are 23 years old and all springs regardless of the type will sag and lose their springiness over time.
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Right on. I guess by WAY more of a lift I was referring to what was included in the kit verses just the control arms.

Thanks for answering my questions! Really helpful!
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Let's say I were to purchase the aftermarket, heavy duty torsion bars. Could I, in theory, put those guys in and then crank the bars for maximum lift? Thoughts?

I know the risk of this with the original torsion bars is that eventually they'll sag, but with the new heavy-duty ones which are designed for the extra stress, I should be fine right?
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The new bars will retain the amount of lift "cranked" in longer, keep in mind they will make the truck stiffer up front. Also you never want to raise the front the maximum amount that is possible. But as I say all the time, it's your truck.
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