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Old 09-08-2017, 08:15 PM   #1
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Default Tension/Compression/Strut rod cup question

Now that the ash settled in Seattle I got a chance to change to change the bushings on the strut rod. Upon removal I noticed that the cup on the control arm side gave up years and pretty much disintegrated once the bushings came out. This happened on both sides and the hole looks like it may be bigger than it should be. So would it be safe to drive without the cup? And if not if I just got a heavy duty washer to go between the bushing the mounting point? Sorry don't have pictures at the moment. Tried to look through the forum but found one post about a similar situation but unsure due to all the pictures were broken.
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Old 09-08-2017, 09:10 PM   #2
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Cup meaning one of the large washers?
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I don't think so. The bushing kit I got came with the large outside washers. The cups I'm referring to are attached to the frame and the bushings are supposed to sit in them.
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it helps center the bushing but you could probably live without it.

also if you need a set of poly bushings for some reason i have an extra set of either energy or prothane. and im about 3mins from tukwila
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I see, they are welded to the frame. As long as there isn't play in the bar you might be able to run without them but those rods can affect your alignment and play can cause unwanted changes going down the road.
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when I had my 87 Hardbody 4x4, the bushing cups were completely gone and the holes were elongated. I had a machine shop punch a hole through 2 - 1/4" thick plates and my buddy welded the plates over the front of the strut rod bracket, one on each side, never bothered with new bushing cups and never noticed anything negative about not using the cups.

A lot of people use bearing races welded on as new cups.
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a lot of guys tack (weld) a thick washer in the cup
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That would work, all it is doing is helping keep the bushings from squirming around and centered.
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Old 09-10-2017, 03:59 AM   #9
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Thanks all. I'm liking the idea of welding a piece of steel. I think the holes got elongated over the years.
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Finally got around to uninstalling the driver side and welding a large washer in place of the missing steel. I'll forgo a cup for now and see how it drives. I imagine it's better than what it was since the previous bushings almost crumbled apart when removing them. Thanks for the help all.
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