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Old 11-07-2017, 11:51 PM   #11
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I'm looking at a set of Morel's, but still researching other brands. Focal is way outside the budget. Although Morel has speakers that cost just as much as Focal also.

They say to mount the tweeters at shoulder level but some companies such as JL audio say not to have the tweeter more than 8" from the mid speaker.
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Old 11-08-2017, 06:07 AM   #12
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Wow, we have some seriously well educated audiophiles in here! Yup, I don't need to explain a thing. I built the JBL speakers setup to test a couple theories as an experiment. The plates are actually built out of 1/2" ABS, which it pretty dense. The idea is the dense material adds mass to the door where the speaker is mounted, and in addition to adding damping material like Dynomat, it keeps the door quiet and let's the speaker do it's job better, adding midbass. I mounted the tweeter there for staging reasons, as they said. Admittedly, I also did this because the JBLs have pretty loud tweeters, and I've found they are a bit piercing when placed up high, so I was trying to mitigate that a bit. The speakers sound great, for as cheap as I got them. At the time, I wasn't planning on keeping the truck, so I didn't want to invest much in it. But I found an amazing deal on the FoCals, and I really love this damn truck, so why not! I ordered the FoCals from a website in Britain, and only paid $330 with shipping! MSRP is $1200, so how could I say no!?!
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If anyone wants an amazing deal on FoCals, this was the website I got them from:
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is cerwin vega still in the car audio game?
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They say to mount the tweeters at shoulder level but some companies such as JL audio say not to have the tweeter more than 8" from the mid speaker.
i would go shoulder high. your ears will pick up the higher frequencies better. if the tweeters are placed lower, the sound will just be scattered around the cab.
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That is one thing I like about the Morel's, from the reviews I read they say the tweeters sound very good, not harsh or piercing like other brands.

When I had a set of MB Quart Components years ago in my former 87 I mounted the tweeters just below the top of the door panel and they sounded pretty good.
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I've got an Infinity component kit in mine. Tweets in the factory tweeter pillars from a Pathfinder and the main woofers in the factory door holes.

Looks like they still sell it on Amazon - this is the kit I've got. I've had it for 5 years now. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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The first thing you should do is put some type of sound deadener in your doors. If you can't control the resonance then no matter what it won't sound real good. When it comes to pricing it does make a difference to a point. Even a well placed cheap driver will sound better than a not so well placed expensive one. For the best sound you want your pathlengths to be equal on the left and right side. That isn't the easiest thing to do so a lot of head units have time correction built into them to help compensate. It is a bandaid but will help. I had a $1300 component set in my truck with a custom built dash and kick panels. The dash had 4" midranges and tweets tucked away inside the dash to conceal them and the kick panels had 8" midbass drivers. For the low end I had a 12" sub in my center console and the very front of the truck. I used an external processor with time correction, phase, eq. Pretty much anything you would ever need for an audiophile system. On top of that I moved my seats where they would extend back another 8" to help equalize the pathlengths. I now have that same processor, head unit and amps in my car driving a set of factory 6 1/2" in the doors and a set of fountek 3" fullrange drivers in the dash that were like $60. I don't have a sub in there currently but my sound stage is higher, has more depth and is clearer than the $1300 set that was tailored around the vehicle. The dash speakers are crossed over at 315 hz @ 18 db and the doors run from 30 hz to 315 hz @ 36 db.
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good point on the doors. there isnt anything in there but space. so they are nothing but giant resonance tubes.
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Putting some deadening material in there definitely makes a difference. I use some stuff called Roadkill in both my truck and the Yaris, and I'll be putting it in the Benz as well. It's cheap and effective. I don't go crazy with audio though. I'd say around 800 per vehicle is my limit.
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