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Old 06-15-2016, 02:12 AM   #21
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at least everything will be new when your done
That is a double edged sword, buy a truck so you can have a daily but then have to rebuild it. You end up spending double what you planned or worse but you do have reliable transportation when your done.
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I totally agree Scooby. The truck will be nice and reliable when it's done, but I certainly didn't want to spend anywhere
near as much as it will take to get it there. But, such is life!




As far as the control arms go, I was able to just about finish one of the lowers last night using my garage welder. It took me damn near an
hour to cut and grind off all the old crap that was on there. When people booger weld, they sure do lay that shit on there...




I'm not entirely sure why the previous builder decided to pie cut the corners here, but I will be addressing that when I go to weld it all up.



With everything mocked up, the arms weren't looking too bad anymore at all!



Since all I have at home is a really old Snap-On 110 welder, I was worried that it wouldn't be enough to burn in all this thicker steel onto the arms, so the original
plan was to tack it all together and take it to my Dad's shop and burn 'em in with his Lincoln 180. After tacking everything though, I decided to just go for it and
fully weld them. This decision was made based on two factors: the top bag plate couldn't be welded on until the triangulation bar was welded in
fully since the plate would cover it up completely, and the welder was giving me really nice, fully penetrated () tacks that laid down nice and flat.


And don't worry, these pictures don't show it, but I did in fact use a piece of all-thread that fit into the
bushings and the arm to line everything up to make sure it will all fit and work in the truck.






Again, I am by no means a welder by trade, and most things I weld end up getting ground off (making me more of a "grinder" than anything),
but these actually turned out pretty good in my opinion. Definitely not perfect, but the heat signatures suggest plenty
of penetration, the weld is nice and flat, and there was very little splatter.




The welds WOULD have been continuous, but the breakers at my house don't really like the higher heat settings on the old welder.
The breaker kept popping which lead to the machine shutting off mid weld. I know this leads to a cold start
on the weld and is less than ideal when it comes to stuff like this, but the welds are mostly there just
to hold the plate to the arm rather than being structural anyhow, so I'm not too worried about it.



Eventually I will end up taking the arms off the other truck, making a jig from them, and making tubular uppers and lowers for this truck
as well, so more than anything, this whole exercise is practice and fixing a reliable yet temporary solution to get this truck safe.
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Old 06-15-2016, 04:27 PM   #23
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Those welds look good for a 110v welder. Most frame and suspension parts are thinner than people perceive them as, anyway. I would have soldiered on, too, considering the way they are turning out.

Maybe try to run the welder off of a heavier wire if you can? Maybe make a heavy duty extension cord that reaches to a lightly-used circuit that is closer to the breaker panel?

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Those welds look good for a 110v welder. Most frame and suspension parts are thinner than people perceive them as, anyway. I would have soldiered on, too, considering the way they are turning out.
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Maybe try to run the welder off of a heavier wire if you can? Maybe make a heavy duty extension cord that reaches to a lightly-used circuit that is closer to the breaker panel?

Yeah, I'm not too sure what to do at this point with the welder. I am currently running .030 wire which should be fine I think? And there are only two outlets total in the garage, so I'm definitely limited there. Oh well! I'll just deal with it until I can finally buy my own place...
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.030" is sufficient, depending on settings. It looks like your machine is making enough voltage and wire speed.
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Holy shit! some people should not even touch a welder
I got a good friend that's a backwoods country mechanic. Uses rods when he can, but he actually prefers the old wire coat hangers. Does a pretty good job with them too.

I like gifs too........

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I got a good friend that's a backwoods country mechanic. Uses rods when he can, but he actually prefers the old wire coat hangers. Does a pretty good job with them too.
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I like gifs too........

HA! Now THAT'S a quality gif! Gotta love Jenna Marbles!

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Coming along great - With experience (which it looks like you have ) and proper metal prep you can build a mini all day long with a 110v MIG machine.

Myself... I need a 220v machine to make sure my shit welds actually have some penetration haha
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Coming along great - With experience (which it looks like you have ) and proper metal prep you can build a mini all day long with a 110v MIG machine.
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Myself... I need a 220v machine to make sure my shit welds actually have some penetration haha


Ha! I'm still getting the hang of the whole welding thing. I've always been under the impression that 110v isn't "enough" for frame work or thicker materials, but the more and more I work with it, the more confident I get with it.
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I started tackling the daunting task of cutting off all the old bag brackets last night. Due to the fact that I do not have a plasma cutter or a torch,
This process took me about an hour to an hour and a half to do with cut off wheels and a carbide burr. But it was definitely worth it.

After I got everything all cut apart and actually looked at the pieces that were on there, I'm surprised that the truck stayed on the road for as long as it did...









Granted, the area that I am working in here is very tight and welding upside down isn't the easiest thing to do in the world, but most of the stuff up front
wasn't fully welded, and 80% of the welds simply broke after I cut a small portion of one side and smashed the bracket with a hammer. All of the welds were just hot
enough to stick the pieces together, but not nearly hot enough to keep everything there forever.

At any rate, the old brackets on one side are now all taken off and the process of putting it all back together is started.





Unfortunately, I measured once and cut 4 times on the tabs that hold the new bushing onto the frame, and as a result, I will have to go buy replacements
today to fix my mistake, but overall it's starting to look like something under there again. The bolt that was supplied with the kit is super long, so I'll probably cut it
down once everything is fully welded into place simply for aesthetic purposes.




And I still have to plate/ fix whatever is going on here...



But, this side should be done pretty soon and then I'll have the pleasure of being able to repeat the whole process on the other side.

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