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HybridImages
09-27-2008, 10:40 PM
First let me say welcome to InfamousNissan, chances are that if you are reading this you may be new to nissans or just beginning to build your ride.
No worries though, you are not alone. Many people have once asked these questions.

Let's start with some specs:

Q: What is the lug and bolt pattern for my truck?
A: 6 on 139.7mm or 6 on 5.5"

Q:What's the right offset for a hardbody?
A:+30 mm for 7 inch wheels

Q:What is the center bore for my truck?
A:4 inches or 100mm to be exact

Q:Will Cadillac Escalade wheels fit my truck?
A:With a little work yes. The lug pattern on full size GM rims are the same, yet the center will have to be bored to the above mentioned specs to fit. This is also true for Nissan Titan wheels. On a side note Escalade wheels are often referred to as "eskies"

Q:What wheels can I run that don't require them to be bored out in the center?
A:Of course you can run any of the hardbody wheels, as well as pre '05 Frontier and Xterra wheels, pathfinder through 04 , 6lug Toyota, Colorado,H3,

Q:What all wheels can fit if they are bored?
A: Fullsize GM wheels including Z-71, Eskies,Yukon, Sierra and so forth also non GM's would be Titans, Infinity, Mazda, Isuzu,

Q:What are the specs if I have an '05 up?
A:6x4.5 with a 66.1mm bore +35mm offset of 8.5" wheels

Q:How can I determine the right rim tire combination for me?
A: there are many calculators online that can be useful
here are a few: http://www.rims-n-tires.com/rt_specs.jsp
http://www.1010tires.com/WheelOffsetCalculator.asp
http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html
http://riverviewtire.com/Tireheightchart.html

Q:How do I get my rims bored?
A:Many prefer to take them into a machine shop and have them professionally done. Although there is a process that has become quite popular to do it yourselfers using a router.

Q:Are there any other concerns that need to be mentioned in regards to fitting any of the above mentioned wheels?
A:Yes some wheels may require you to flair your bedside. Other ways people have worked out small clearance issues, have been trimming or rolling the inner lip. Up front 4x4 or Pathfinder fenders and make life easier by giving you added space.

**Also if planning to run drop spindles it is recommended that you at least run a 17 inch rim, although it is possible to run smaller wheels with spindles it will require more work**


Hope this thread a help to people and will eliminate many other duplicate threads.

I would also like to say thanks to other members for their contribution of information. This was put together with my knowledge as well as info from others; ScottXGTR,wv87minitruckr,Thor,cornwell customs,Indecline,nislo,skrapinflesh

If anyone has useful fact to contribute here (do so) or sees anything that may need a correction (let me know) other than that let's keep this a tech thread. The only reason I'm leaving open is for more contributions...If you have a question requiring more information or explanation, open a thread and ask...but please search first to see that it hasn't already been asked. As time goes by we hope we can bring more in depth how to articles that may help with some things mentioned here such as boring with router and flaring the bedsides.

pugz
09-27-2008, 11:03 PM
to add about offset.....


20s.............. for fitting 20s with out too manyt issues u need about 1 20x8.5 with AT LEAST a +40mm offset

dwnshfter
10-07-2008, 05:13 AM
what is the offset of the stock wheels, eskies, titans ect.....

O.G.Tierdrop
10-07-2008, 04:56 PM
what is the offset of the stock wheels, eskies, titans ect.....

i know the titans 6 spokes are 18x8 with a 25mm off set

dwnshfter
10-10-2008, 03:26 AM
i know the titans 6 spokes are 18x8 with a 25mm off set

i assume the titan 5 spokes are the same? wgat about the titan 17's?

ScottXGTR
10-11-2008, 05:10 PM
i assume the titan 5 spokes are the same? wgat about the titan 17's?
5 and 6 spokes are indentical

17" offroad 7 spoke are listed as 17x7.5 with +30mm

ScottXGTR
10-12-2008, 07:15 PM
Lugnuts Explained:

eskies, titans, denalis and etc are normally bolted up with bulge acorn style.
some toyota wheels require a shank style lug nut. please refer to the diagrams below

Nissan lug nut size is 12mm 1.25 pitch available at any parts store, or summit online if you are having issues locally

http://www.infamousnissan.com/publicimages/lugnut.jpg
http://www.infamousnissan.com/publicimages/lugnut2.jpg

KENDIG
10-29-2008, 01:27 PM
**Also if planning to run drop spindles it is recommended that you at least run a 17 inch rim, although it is possible to run smaller wheels with spindles it will require more work**

what does it take to run 15" pathys with spindles?

pugz
11-05-2008, 11:59 PM
the 05+ frontiers are 6 on 4.5 / 6 on 114.

Nein7Oh
11-17-2008, 09:22 PM
Anyone know the backspacing of the 18" Titan wheels? I am looking at 6 spoke but I hear they are the same as 5's.

O.G.Tierdrop
11-17-2008, 09:41 PM
5.5 inches iirc

shavedmax
11-21-2008, 12:25 AM
how deep do you have to bore out eskies? do you go all the way through?

O.G.Tierdrop
11-21-2008, 12:32 AM
i believe you can go all the way with eskies...

slammed97
11-25-2008, 06:35 PM
how do u measure the offset or backspacing....

jcjcsoccerkid
06-30-2009, 06:08 PM
how do you use small wheels with spindles??

say......15" pathy wheels for example. or 16" toyota tacoma wheels

ScottXGTR
06-30-2009, 10:48 PM
you have to trim or remount the tension rod. it rubs on the inside of the wheel. some people have trimmed off the second bolt hole and only used one. others have reangled it so it doesnt rub.

jcjcsoccerkid
07-01-2009, 03:53 PM
is it safe to remove the 2nd hole of the tension rod?

ScottXGTR's
07-01-2009, 09:16 PM
If done properly, I feel it could be. You lose the redundancy of the second bolt, so you would probably want to inspect it regularly to make sure it doesn't come loose.

lowbody2
09-07-2009, 01:52 PM
i came across a set of 18" colorado extreme wheels. so i should be able to use these on my hardbody with no problems? i see that they dont need to be bored. but what about tucking? also does anyone have these on a hardbody? heres the wheels im talking about
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e111/lowbody2/Colorado_Xtreme-front-125.jpg
(http://www.autointell.com/News-2004/August-2004/August-2004-1/Colorado_Xtreme-front-125.jpg)

ScottXGTR
09-07-2009, 03:07 PM
i came across a set of 18" colorado extreme wheels. so i should be able to use these on my hardbody with no problems? i see that they dont need to be bored. but what about tucking? also does anyone have these on a hardbody? heres the wheels im talking about
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e111/lowbody2/Colorado_Xtreme-front-125.jpg
(http://www.autointell.com/News-2004/August-2004/August-2004-1/Colorado_Xtreme-front-125.jpg)
they fit no prob and i think they tuck. what are the specs on them? 18x8 +?? offset

lowbody2
09-12-2009, 01:22 AM
well i tried one of the extreme wheels today they bolted right up with no problems and looked good but dont tuck so that sucked

lowbody2
09-12-2009, 09:42 PM
heres a pic of the wheel on the truck looked good but not for a bagged ride
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e111/lowbody2/nissanrado.jpg

ScottXGTR
09-13-2009, 04:03 PM
so what was the offset? its normally cast into the wheel on the backside

wiredxchange
02-17-2010, 05:04 PM
yes but you have to run 4x4 fenders upfront, and flair your bed some now this is only for a HB if you have a frontier your good to go

Exactly how do I flare the bed? I am running the 18" Titans with 235-45-18 and what to tuck tires by installing 4" blocks.

ScottXGTR
02-17-2010, 05:07 PM
Exactly how do I flare the bed? I am running the 18" Titans with 235-45-18 and what to tuck tires by installing 4" blocks.

http://www.infamousnissan.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6767&highlight=flare (http://www.infamousnissan.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6767)

wiredxchange
02-17-2010, 11:24 PM
Scott, what do you think about this tool, has anyone tried it? http://www.eastwood.com/fender-finisher.html

ScottXGTR
02-17-2010, 11:50 PM
its a $70 pair of pliers.

you have to relief cut our inner fender lip in order to fold it under. no fancy tools required. your favorite cutting tool, a hammer, and some elbow grease. if you roll a lot of fenders, that tool might make things a little easier. otherwise it be better to borrow one from a friend instead of buying one.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a307/scottxgtr/inbuildthread/IMG_1084.jpg

ScottXGTR
02-21-2010, 06:10 PM
those will work fine

White Trash Renegade
02-24-2010, 09:23 PM
Has anybody tried the 20" Titans on there Hardbody? I'm kinda wanting to get a set for my truck but I'm a little hesitant to buy them just yet. I just got a 720 that I'm pulling the rear end out of for my truck, but I'm still not sure if it will work.

Sorry for the dumb question, I'm just curious.

ScottXGTR
02-24-2010, 10:49 PM
there is at least one guy with them on a static drop. they need bored just like the rest. they are 20x8 +23 which would be a pain to tuck without some serious work.

pacific coast
05-08-2010, 05:02 PM
Have a general question on the 18 inch Titan rims. How deep on the inside does the hole need to be bored ?
I know if you bore the entire hole the center cap wont work.
Im guessing 1/2 inch but im hoping somebody can give me a definate answer.

O G B-RON C
05-08-2010, 06:55 PM
Have a general question on the 18 inch Titan rims. How deep on the inside does the hole need to be bored ?
I know if you bore the entire hole the center cap wont work.
Im guessing 1/2 inch but im hoping somebody can give me a definate answer.


Yup. 1/2 inch

minitruckin4life
05-19-2010, 03:45 AM
What lug nuts do u use to install Titan wheels?

ScottXGTR
05-19-2010, 03:49 AM
the same bulge acorn wheels talked about in this thread.

for the record, almost any aluminum alloy wheel is going to require the bulge acorn wheel. the only exception is a few toyota/lexus wheels.

ScottXGTR
05-19-2010, 04:34 AM
thread cleaned for claritys sake.

LuisT
06-25-2010, 06:01 AM
anybody has chek the new 4runner/ tacoma wheel,

18X7.5", 6 LUGS ON 5-1/2" 25MM OFFSET

http://z.about.com/d/suvs/1/0/2/W/-/-/Wheel.jpg

looks like doesnt need to bore,
http://i.ebayimg.com/09/!Bu6efJ!EWk~$(KGrHqIOKnUEvyFr)kjeBMCWGuTwH!~~_12.J PG

and the sequoia 20's

http://www.dbdragpr.com/DB/Gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=40753&g2_serialNumber=3.jpeg
http://www.dbdragpr.com/DB/Gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=40754&g2_serialNumber=3.jpeg

VIPHB
06-27-2010, 05:53 AM
Hi guys im jst wondering if these will fit a HB there off 2010 nissan navara/d40
there 17" 6/114.3 there going on a static truck with spindles on the front.
Im guessing the centre is going have to get bored outhttp://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?VISuperSize&item=200485216567

DAZE752
06-27-2010, 06:04 AM
negative different bolt pattern

VIPHB
06-27-2010, 06:04 AM
sorry guys http://www.caradvice.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Nissan_Navara_Titanium_Edition_file_001.jpg

VIPHB
06-27-2010, 06:05 AM
damn cheers man oh well keep looking

Swschz
06-27-2010, 06:21 AM
yea bro,you have to be carefull with the later model nissan stuff...its all 6x114.3....seen alot of guys selling those rims cheap after buying them to find it doesnt fit lol.

WRLiv
02-14-2011, 04:08 AM
i know titans have been talked about, but theres so many different types, years and sizes, idk wat is wat...

can someone tell me about these titans...
http://columbus.craigslist.org/pts/2200851876.html (http://columbus.craigslist.org/pts/2200851876.html)

size... 17 x ?? + ??mm
will they need to be bored out for a hardbody?
any clearence issues? will they tuck??
wat size tire would u recomend for them...

anybody have these on a hardbody??

ScottXGTR
02-14-2011, 12:22 PM
17x7.5 +31mm

the wheel size, width, and offset are almost always stamped/cast into the back of the wheel. ask the seller, or one of the many sellers on ebay and they can provide this info. some of the sellers on ebay even include this info in their auction listing.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1-WHEEL-17-STEEL-NISSAN-TITAN-ARMADA-OEM-RIM-SILVER-09-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem256097afcbQQitemZ16053 4343627QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccesso ries

AstroVannin
02-17-2011, 05:04 AM
Is there any information available on the offset for stock GM 6 bolt rally wheels (15x8).

I wanted to run them with a set of spindles, Apearantly the 15" pathy's are *close* but still fit, I wondered if the same would apply for the 15x8 Rallys.

The alternative would be a set of drop control arms, but I would prefer to use spindles if I can.

ScottXGTR
02-17-2011, 01:00 PM
Is there any information available on the offset for stock GM 6 bolt rally wheels (15x8).



the wheel size, width, and offset are almost always stamped/cast into the back of the wheel. ask the seller, or one of the many sellers on ebay and they can provide this info. some of the sellers on ebay even include this info in their auction listing.


15" wheel with spindles is a rare case.

vb2ner
02-17-2011, 07:54 PM
What's wrong with drop control arms? Seems to me that would solve your problem..

AstroVannin
02-17-2011, 10:53 PM
What's wrong with drop control arms? Seems to me that would solve your problem..

I thought I read somwhere that the spindles maintanied a better ride, which is why I was more interested in them.

I probably just dont understand enough about how the drop control arms work.

**EDIT**

After some searching, the GM rallys are 3.5" backspacing.

ScottXGTR
02-18-2011, 12:38 PM
drop spindles retain the stock suspension geometry which means alignments can be perfect. they are also very compatible with a future bag job. the downside is your wheel size has to clear the LCA and tension rod.

drop arms alter the stock geometry slighty meaning alignments can get tricky if you do a torsion drop as well. they are not as easy to use when bagging compared to the the stock arms.

spindles are preferred, especially if you plan to bag later on.
drop arms work as intended for static dropped trucks.

AstroVannin
02-18-2011, 01:55 PM
Ok, so heres my thoughts, and correct me if Im wrong. 15" Pathys clear, but only just and the inner wheel weights get knocked off. The backspacing (as I can find it) is 4.78" ... If the GM is 3.5" that should in theory move the wheel and inch and a bit FURTHER away from the hub which would give it more clearance no?

Does this make any sense? Or do I not understand where the actual interference is?

ScottXGTR
02-19-2011, 10:53 AM
in theory. but then the rally wheels are going to stick out way past the fender.

AstroVannin
02-19-2011, 11:45 AM
Hopefully I can find one to test fit... I want them to be flush with 4x4 fenders.

vb2ner
02-25-2011, 10:48 PM
I have eskies on my hb right now, but I am trading for some z71's this weekend(+ cash of coarse), and I am just wondering if I can use my bulge acorn lugs on the z71's?

ScottXGTR
02-26-2011, 09:37 AM
you use the bulge acorn nuts on almost all aluminum wheels.

vb2ner
02-26-2011, 08:30 PM
you use the bulge acorn nuts on almost all aluminum wheels.

Good to know. I appreciate the help:thumb:

Jake616
03-13-2011, 01:30 AM
Question...

I have six spoke Titans needing bored to fit an 01 Frontier. There is a vertical mill in my sisters boyfriends shop.... but I don't have my Nissan local to me. How large to I bore the wheel to fit the hub? :/ From reading sounds like 1/2" deep x ???? hole size.

ldblk_d21
03-13-2011, 01:48 AM
4" by 1/2" deep will do the trick jake

Jake616
03-13-2011, 04:09 AM
4" by 1/2" deep will do the trick jake

Much appreciation! :thumb:

lomaboy02
04-03-2011, 05:33 PM
newb question:

what year pathy are these wheels and will they fit an 05 hb w/no adjustments or will they have to be bored to fit?

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d154/lomaboy02/wheels-1-1.jpg

thanx in advance and sorry for the crappy pic

Sonny Diesel
04-06-2011, 12:34 AM
http://media.m-penny.com/files/instance-02/main_photo/2011/01/28/45/54/f3ac3dca7117c6d499f7e6da9eb20b6b-167x104.jpgIs there anything in particular we should know about Titan steelies? Thanks!

ScottXGTR's
04-06-2011, 07:45 AM
Depends on what you want to know.

They need to be bored. They are steel. They are 18". People have used them before. They will not fit a kia sephia.

belac515
04-11-2011, 12:51 AM
Anyone know if the 16" tacoma wheels need to be bored out?

layd_hrdbdy
04-12-2011, 04:28 AM
i hear you have to go +30 offset to tuck but i have a 96 hardbody with 17's on it now. i want to get the 5 spoke titan wheel 18x8 +25 offset. i already have 4x4 fenders and the bed has been pulled a inch. will they tuck without any more work? also how hard to tuck 20 inch titan in the back?

nevermind... i read some more and found it

Slammed One
04-29-2011, 05:48 PM
to add about offset.....


20s.............. for fitting 20s with out too manyt issues u need about 1 20x8.5 with AT LEAST a +40mm offset
thanks pugs... most definitely needed that info for my project

KRD22
05-30-2011, 07:18 PM
I have searched a little, but on 20" titans what is the width and offset?

ScottXGTR
05-31-2011, 12:13 PM
9" width and +23 offset if i recall. search for a set on ebay as most sellers list the specs in the description.

sicnis
06-13-2011, 05:11 PM
im about to bore my titans, i was wondering if someone would confirm this..
this is the correct size bit right? and i went to homedepot and all i could find was wood bits.
i didnt feel like asking anyone there, im never sure if they know what there talking about

D and C is all im looking at
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/6907/wheelbit.jpg

fakemike
06-14-2011, 01:15 AM
Yes, "D" is the only one you need to look at. It will create a 1/2 inch bore on each side, turning a 3 inch center bore into a 4 inch center bore.

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/2694/wheelsl.jpg

sicnis
06-14-2011, 04:01 AM
yea thanks but where are you buying the bit from?
there was nothing that looked like that bit or for metal when i had looked

ScottXGTR's
06-14-2011, 07:51 AM
You won't find router bits made for metal. They are all for wood. The key is finding one that is carbide tipped. It will be hard enough to cut the aluminum

fakemike
06-14-2011, 09:27 PM
Here is the one I got from Lowes:
http://www.lowes.com/pd_49784-353-85614MC_0__?productId=1090869&Ntt=router+bit+bosch&pl=1&currentURL=%2Fpl__0__s%3FNtt%3Drouter%2Bbit%2Bbosc h&facetInfo=

It was around $30. I've done 5 wheels, and its still going strong.

sicnis
06-14-2011, 10:36 PM
carbide tip gotcha, thanks guys
lowes here i come

1lowhardbody
06-23-2011, 11:24 AM
hey guys quick question, can I use tuner lugs on eskies? Only reason I ask is because the only bulge acorns I can find around here in our size are about $2.49 a piece. I know I could look on ebay, but I already have a set of 30 of the tuner lugs if they would work.

ScottXGTR
06-23-2011, 12:39 PM
if your tuner lugs are similar to the bulge acorn style. id rather spend a few coins to make sure my wheels dont fall off. check your local advance, pep boys, napa, etc. they usually have sets of 20 thatll be cheaper than 2.50 each

1lowhardbody
06-23-2011, 12:50 PM
thanks for the quick reply scotty

nissanmike
07-05-2011, 08:09 PM
ok i have landed a set of the gunmetal 18 inch titan wheels for a decent price. if the guy comes through, what problems or things will i have with these wheels. i ran eskies before. thanks for any info.

ScottXGTR
07-06-2011, 12:51 PM
ok i have landed a set of the gunmetal 18 inch titan wheels for a decent price. if the guy comes through, what problems or things will i have with these wheels. i ran eskies before. thanks for any info.

bore them. use the right lug nuts. buy tires that fit. watch out for curbs.

nissanmike
07-06-2011, 01:04 PM
bore them. use the right lug nuts. buy tires that fit. watch out for curbs.


i have the fronts ground down from when i ran escalade wheels, had spacers in the back and had bulge seat lugs nuts. what size tire would you recommend? 215 35 or 225 40?

ScottXGTR
07-06-2011, 01:08 PM
225/40

nissanmike
07-10-2011, 12:14 AM
Ok thanks. Can you tell me what I need to bore the centers too?

95_NISMO_HB
07-17-2011, 09:20 PM
Just sharing the idea... I picked up a set of 2007 Z71 wheels and wanted to do something with the center caps. So I picked up a set of Sentra centers on eBay, mod'd the chevy centers and this is the end product... still not finished with all of them but I think they will look pretty dope for a "stock" mod.
http://www.infamousnissan.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=233&pictureid=8940

4DRZ
07-18-2011, 12:16 AM
How about 235/35/18's or 245/35/18's?225/40

1lowhardbody
07-18-2011, 12:46 AM
diggin those center caps man

abetterlie
08-07-2011, 04:57 AM
My god, this is such a useful thread. Thanks SO much.

belac515
08-08-2011, 04:11 AM
What size spacers would I need to use so that I wouldn't have to bore out titans/ eskies/ ect?

I know you're supposed to bore 1/2" deep, so does that mean 1/2" spacers would do the trick?

JOHN92
08-08-2011, 04:20 AM
Are you wanting them to stick way out?

belac515
08-08-2011, 04:35 AM
Most stock wheels have such high offsets that a spacer wouldn't make them actually "stick way out". I know hessianben ran a 2" spacer on titans and it was flush with the fender.

I don't need them to tuck if that's what you were wondering.

mahikoa
08-13-2011, 04:42 PM
just thought id put my two cents in i have a 93 2x4 pathy and i just put a set of five spoke eighteens on it by boring the centers out the 1/2"x4" and then there were six little tabs left inside of the smaller center bore that i knocked out by boring it to the same dia. thats inside then i took my hubs off and turned them down a kunt hair below that dia. i cant remember exactly what it was but it all worked out great and if i can get some good service ill post pics up of everything im talking about sorry doing this all from my phone and we dont get good service in arab alabama but i will get something back soon.http://infamousnissan.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=1254&pictureid=9371

KRD22
08-24-2011, 03:00 PM
What size is the valve stem hole in titans? .453?

queefer
08-29-2011, 03:02 AM
being its a wheel thread I figured I'd ask here. has anyone used these taco wheels?
I've searched but didnt find anything....I just wanna see a couple pics and see how they fit.

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQnzKAs0vFlMYBQxDf_kmUnEjcSx2D3x H8QYBts4W2qIQlNlaUAlw

queefer
08-31-2011, 05:35 PM
REALLY
no one has ever used these?

RedAggie03
08-31-2011, 05:47 PM
being its a wheel thread I figured I'd ask here. has anyone used these taco wheels?
I've searched but didnt find anything....I just wanna see a couple pics and see how they fit.

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQnzKAs0vFlMYBQxDf_kmUnEjcSx2D3x H8QYBts4W2qIQlNlaUAlw

REALLY
no one has ever used these?

I believe those are from the newer models that are 6x114.3 bolt pattern, so they will not fit.

queefer
08-31-2011, 06:03 PM
well according to this and what I've seen on the internets tacomas have always ran 6x5.5....
http://www.discountedwheelwarehouse.com/Toyota___Vehicle_Bolt_Pattern_Reference.cfm

I'm mostly questioning the center bore :/

DAZE752
08-31-2011, 06:09 PM
toyotas should run a 4inch bore.

queefer
09-01-2011, 10:56 PM
so they should work? LEGIT! :)

....I found a set locally that I'm lookin at this weekend.

queefer
09-04-2011, 11:47 PM
well I got the wheels and the center bore is a bit too big. is that gonna be ok or should I get center rings? arent these trucks lug-centric anyways?

$krap_IN_flesh
09-05-2011, 12:20 AM
those wheels will bolt right up with proper shanked lugnuts. I have had a set but they wont tuck without work. so I gave em to my buddy to put on his static mazda

queefer
09-05-2011, 04:21 AM
YAY thanks for the info mate!

MikeSki
09-30-2011, 12:38 AM
I plan on getting at least a 2" drop on the front.

Am I understanding correct that my stock 14's won't clear spindles

I have access to Titan 18's since i work at a dealer (they are all 6 round spoke that we have laying around). But don't own a router and don't wanna screw up with a grinder. Guess what I'm really getting at is should i wait to drop till after I get a router and do the 18's?

NoSoHardbody
10-18-2011, 08:15 PM
Wat lug nut should I run on my eskis? ?

RedAggie03
10-25-2011, 10:16 PM
Do the 17" Pathfinder wheels off a 2002 really have a +20 offset? So they would stick out 5 mm MORE than my Titans do already? damn...

http://www.oewheels.net/oe-nissan-frontier-s-2.jpg

pugz
10-25-2011, 10:45 PM
^^^ arent those only 17x7 though?

RedAggie03
10-26-2011, 01:17 AM
What I can find says 17x8 which is the same as the Titans.

slyderdai
11-10-2011, 08:57 PM
I didn't see anything here about it so I'm gonna ask.

I found a set of wheels that are the right pattern but the center bore isn't. I know they have to be bored out but they are steel wheels. Can this be done with a router or should I just keep looking for a different set?

1_low_fronty
11-12-2011, 11:30 PM
has anyone used these?http://i43.tinypic.com/2uj78rk.jpg,they are fj cruiser wheels they are 17x7.5 bolt pattern is 6x5.5 hub bore is 106,didnt see what the backspacing or offset is. i think they would look good,almost like the titan 6 spoke.

Slo Krt
11-29-2011, 05:44 AM
Has anyone used extended wheel studs? Ive been looking for a set but havent come up with much. I have used ARP in the past, and have only found s couple generic sets that are outregeously priced (280 for enough to do the whole truck)

Where did you find em?

Thanks

RedAggie03
11-29-2011, 02:17 PM
has anyone used these?http://i43.tinypic.com/2uj78rk.jpg,they are fj cruiser wheels they are 17x7.5 bolt pattern is 6x5.5 hub bore is 106,didnt see what the backspacing or offset is. i think they would look good,almost like the titan 6 spoke.

Yes, from all of my research they will fit. I think the offset is a little much though, I believe they are +15. The Toyota 4Runner Limited wheels however are the same, but have a +30 offset...I will probably scoop a set of these up if I ever find some.

http://www.toyota-4runner.org/attachments/want-buy-trade/32246d1282933017-wtb-toyota-4runner-limited-wheels-toyota-wheel.jpg

RedAggie03
11-29-2011, 02:24 PM
Also the wheels from a 2005-2011 Toyota Tacoma are 16x7 with a +30 mm offset.

These black baja wheels would look siiick!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v290/Blkdak22/For%20Sale/IMG_2429.jpg

RedAggie03
11-29-2011, 02:53 PM
I'm also interested in figuring out what the specs are on these wheels...I can't find them on the net yet.

2002 Toyota Tundra wheels 16"

http://i40.tinypic.com/sfv02q.jpg

Fattie
11-29-2011, 04:25 PM
how about these wheels ?

http://unclehenrys.com/init/classifieds/ad_detail/3887440/?_next=http%3A%2F%2Funclehenrys.com%2Finit%2Fsearc h%2Fresults%2F2%233887440

RedAggie03
11-29-2011, 04:54 PM
how about these wheels ?

http://unclehenrys.com/init/classifieds/ad_detail/3887440/?_next=http%3A%2F%2Funclehenrys.com%2Finit%2Fsearc h%2Fresults%2F2%233887440

Looks like a 4" bore, but you need to confirm.

Fattie
11-29-2011, 06:58 PM
Looks like a 4" bore, but you need to confirm.

yes there 4 inch bore. american racing. ive talked to the guy he said he couldnt remember the offset but he tried to get the most he could so they would clear his calipers. the info stamped on them is as follows

15x8 jd 0 t ct&w0408. hmmm

Slo Krt
11-29-2011, 07:06 PM
yes there 4 inch bore. american racing. ive talked to the guy he said he couldnt remember the offset but he tried to get the most he could so they would clear his calipers. the info stamped on them is as follows

15x8 jd 0 t ct&w0408. hmmm

Thesae wheels usually come in a 0 offset, sometimes a +10.

Fattie
11-29-2011, 07:10 PM
if it helps he had them on a 88 4x4 yota.
and im onlky maybe gunna lower 4 inches. not gunna be tucking.

RedAggie03
11-29-2011, 07:26 PM
It looks like they have a 0 offset which will poke quite a bit...Will be tight with a 4" drop. I'd look for something with more offset unless you WANT poke.

Fattie
11-29-2011, 07:38 PM
It looks like they have a 0 offset which will poke quite a bit...Will be tight with a 4" drop. I'd look for something with more offset unless you WANT poke.

i think i like the idea of poke. gunna go with stretched tires. i could always go 3 inch drop. i just dont want my handling to be negatively affected. i want the truck to look and handle good. wider is always better , except in winter right?

Fattie
11-29-2011, 08:58 PM
ok so another question. he said from the center hole to the outside of the rim is 5 inches. what does this mean ?

Slo Krt
12-03-2011, 10:14 PM
Ok, quick question. Can the silverado wheels be bored all the way through... It doesn't look like there is a good flat surfface for the router bit bearing tO ride on.

Twisted720
01-05-2012, 06:09 PM
Ok I've asked this before but never got answers. With cadillac wheels I used to have,I couldn't use my stock lugs due to the size. I had to make washers that fit the groves on the wheels. What I want to know is what lug nuts does everybody else use?

This is what I mean by the size. My stuck lugs are 12mm and the GM lugs are 14mm I could put the wheels on with the 12mm lugs but they would come lose. oh and of course you can't use the 14mm lugs.

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/390942_2158554462800_1814692405_1405684_1694440773 _n.jpg

Twisted720
01-06-2012, 10:01 PM
Come on now somebody has to know whats up with the lugs.

Slo Krt
01-07-2012, 12:57 AM
Lugnuts Explained:

eskies, titans, denalis and etc are normally bolted up with bulge acorn style.
some toyota wheels require a shank style lug nut. please refer to the diagrams below

Nissan lug nut size is 12mm 1.25 pitch available at any parts store, or summit online if you are having issues locally

http://www.infamousnissan.com/publicimages/lugnut.jpg
http://www.infamousnissan.com/publicimages/lugnut2.jpg


here's the info on lug nuts from earlier in the post

Twisted720
01-07-2012, 01:28 AM
that doesn't help. I have the acorn bulge and they are too small.

KENDIG
01-07-2012, 03:31 PM
ive been using the bulge acorn lugs on mine for over four years and havent had a single lug come loose yet.

Twisted720
01-08-2012, 05:18 AM
hum. I guess there was something wrong with the wheels I had.

88murderedouthb
01-08-2012, 06:47 AM
Probably a dumb question but I searched this whole thread... What size tires should I run for the off-road Titan wheels? 88 HB 2 inch drop all the way around... Would 225/45/17s work?

subninja
01-12-2012, 12:15 AM
I am getting ready to work on a set of eskies I have read this whole thread and mostly get the idea. I am just wondering if anyone could give me some specifics on how the did the router method. I tried to do some measuring and if i need to bore the hole 1/2 inch deep it would pretty much be all the way through. Can you just trim away until they go on flush or what? Just wanting some advice from someone who's done this.

93_Blaze
02-28-2012, 01:00 AM
Now that I made my intro thread, I noticed there is no info (that I saw) about boring out steelies? What should I use, and how should I use it? Bought a set of titan steelies with great rubber for 50 bucks and my RE Audio subs. Any/all info would be appreciated, and if it has been covered already, please share the link.

fakemike
02-28-2012, 02:02 AM
First thing you need is a strong drill. I bought a corded Ridgid for its lifetime warranty after this killed my old Milwaukee (the speed sensor burned out, and it would only go on full speed). You need to use a nice slow speed so its under control and does not get too hot. You will also need some sort of lubricant (I used motor oil, but some sort of cutting oil might work better).

I bought this Milwaukee Ice Hardened 4in hole saw and chuck for $20 a piece (around $40 total) from Home Depot. You need a good quality hole saw to drill thru steel. This one worked just fine for all 4 wheels.
http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/3550/imag0193x.jpg

Here you can see the groove started. There is a kind of low spot where the saw will sit, but it will want to walk around especially at first. A slow and steady is key.
http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/5135/imag0269.jpg

Alittle more sawing (with oil and shavings cleaned off). If/when the saw starts to smoke you need to let things cool down and add more lube. I would drill/saw for maybe 5-10min then break for a half hour to let the drill cool down. Going at this slow speed can be hard on the drill and can ruin it if you over do it (I'm sure this varies depending on the quality of the drill).
http://img857.imageshack.us/img857/2446/imag0268.jpg

Getting closer.
http://img803.imageshack.us/img803/5899/imag0365h.jpg

*You will want to get your tires mounted and balanced before you make the hole. The hole you make is not in the perfect center and this is what most tire balancers need.

The payoff:
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/7442/imag0548y.jpg

Take your time when doing this. This was my first time, and it took some getting used to. Feel free to ask any more questions.

Here is one of my old threads with a little more info/insight:
http://www.infamousnissan.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14729

93_Blaze
02-28-2012, 03:26 AM
Sweet, I kind of figured this is what would have to be done for steel wheels. Gonna see if a buddy can use his plasma on them, if not, I'll be doing this method for sure. Thanks!

purplenissan
03-01-2012, 12:42 AM
Q:What wheels can I run that don't require them to be bored out in the center?
A:Of course you can run any of the hardbody wheels, as well as pre '05 Frontier and Xterra wheels, pathfinder through 04 , 6lug Toyota, Colorado,H3,

Q:What all wheels can fit if they are bored?
A: Fullsize GM wheels including Z-71, Eskies,Yukon, Sierra and so forth also non GM's would be Titans, Infinity, Mazda, Isuzu,

**Also if planning to run drop spindles it is recommended that you at least run a 17 inch rim, although it is possible to run smaller wheels with spindles it will require more work**


My 16" Infinity QX4's didn't need bored...I filed a little off because they kept getting stuck on, but I didn't bore them.

...I'd really like to know if they are any easier than other 16" wheels for installing drop spindles and needing to trim/remount/reangle the tension rod???:confused:

Miggz707
03-14-2012, 05:08 PM
Ok I've asked this before but never got answers. With cadillac wheels I used to have,I couldn't use my stock lugs due to the size. I had to make washers that fit the groves on the wheels. What I want to know is what lug nuts does everybody else use?

This is what I mean by the size. My stuck lugs are 12mm and the GM lugs are 14mm I could put the wheels on with the 12mm lugs but they would come lose. oh and of course you can't use the 14mm lugs.

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/390942_2158554462800_1814692405_1405684_1694440773 _n.jpg

I see what you're saying man, Im in the same boat right now with 17" z71's. Im planning on just throwing them on with the 12mm studs and acorn style nuts. Obviusly we cant use those 14mm GM double threaded lug nuts lol that'd be awesome since thats what holds the center caps on lol.

Miggz707
03-14-2012, 05:24 PM
ive been using the bulge acorn lugs on mine for over four years and havent had a single lug come loose yet.

And your eski's originaly have 14mm stud holes right? So since its a hub centric wheel it doesn't really matter if you use 12mm holes or 14mm holes right?