My nissan idk what to do about my well weathered engine

[jimmy726]

Ok heres my $200 1993 nissan hardbody with 330000. I dont know what to do about the motor? I found a nissan motor for years 1985 thru 1989 but will this motor be the same as my 1993? the motor is from www.karking.com (http://www.karking.com). will this fit i need to know because im goin to invest in a motor one way or the other. Rebuild it or buy a rebuild???????
Oh and btw look at my killer battery cables

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[OLDSCHOOL]

the motors are way diffrent

[jimmy726]

Ok so whats goin to be the cheapest and easiest way to get me running another 330000 miles

[mikec933]

v8 swap ? :D

or auto wrecker, you could look for a newer hardbody or 240 sx or something and get the engine out of that

[jimmy726]

Ok i mite be wrong but wouldnt it be exspensive to do a v8 swap?????? And i really need it to be cheap im talking about 1000 to 1300 and im a fat guy so you know i need the ac

[ScottXGTR]

i think youll be limited to engines between 90 and 95. before then was the z24 series motor (with 8 spark plugs). 96 and 97 will be obdII and might not be compatible with your wiring. if all you need is the short block you might be able to get by.

id look into a rebuild. what exactly is wrong with your current motor?

[jimmy726]

Nothing much it smokes alitlle and has lot of miles on it. And i have to figure out how to get the tension pulley for the ac back on

[mikec933]

well id just throw a head gasket in it or w.e and drive it, and fix the ac pulley. mines smokes a little when cold too but its only got 200k on it

[mikec933]

and a valve cover gasket by the looks of oil on it

[jimmy726]

I mean thats fine but like i said i want to get alot more miles out of this trcuk. How hard would it be to rebuild this motor

[mikec933]

not hard but with machining and everything youd be looking at more then your budget.. even if you did it yourself

[jimmy726]

So how much will a good rebuild cost me

[mikec933]

im not sure about where you live but when i rebuilt mine it was about 2 grand parts and machining. but its not just the engine that has 330k on it the whole truck does, so imo your not gonna get another 330k outta the truck even if you rebuild the enginge so i dont think its worth it. just get a tune up and fix the oil leaks and what not and itll last you as long as possible

[nismopu]

yeah, man we just picked up a HB 4x4 the other day with the original KA and it has 550k on the clock. It still pulls pretty hard for such a high mileage rig and it looks like S. lol. Just like somebody else said, fix the seals, HG, valve seals, and timing chain. call it good and run the S out of it. peace.

[jimmy726]

so ur telling me the if you rebuild the motor put in a new clutch it isnt worth it? Because im about to start throwing money in to it like its a blackhole air bags bodywork and some interior. I really like the truck and got it on a hell of a deal come on $200 still running

[1sick94hb]

you can use 90-97 motors. If you use 90-93 it will be a direct bolt in. If you want to use a 96 or 97 then you will need to swap the intake manifold from your old motor and put it on the 96 or 97. Hardbody motors can be found cheap all over the place.

[jimmy726]

Ok so will the motor from www.karkings.com (http://www.karkings.com) work if i change the intake from my motor or not. Im looking forward to driving my truck everyday. But right now i feel thats unreliable.

[lolyfe]

Ok i mite be wrong but wouldnt it be exspensive to do a v8 swap?????? And i really need it to be cheap im talking about 1000 to 1300 and im a fat guy so you know i need the ac
hell yes i got about 3000 into mine

[1sick94hb]

The motor you posted was from a 85-89. These will not work. 90-95 will be a direct drop in. 96 and 97 will fit if you use the intake manifold off the engine you have already. BTW does the motor you have now run?

[jimmy726]

Yes the motor runs im just scared to have this truck as my daily with 330000 miles on it. it start to rev high around 60 so thats all ill go. Will a ka24e fit in my truck from one of the cars in that year range

[1sick94hb]

no the FWD (car) Ka24e Will not work. Like i stated find you a Ka24e from a 90-97 hardbody.

[nismopu]

yes but they're going to be more weathered than your KA typically. Seriously, just freshen up your engine and be amazed how long it lasts. I bet ya anything if you take the head off to replace the HG there will be honing marks in the cylinders. peace.

[jimmy726]

Na man ive known this guy that owned the truck before me i work with him no rebuild ever. Only a water pump and maybe a starter other than that just ur basic shit. But i will look in to getn a 90-97 ka24e motor

[nismopu]

k, i didn't understand your post at all.

[jimmy726]

I was saying that there hasnt been any honing in my engine ihas seen the day of light internally for 15 years. I dont want to just freshin it up because i want it to run for alot longer than just another 50 or 60 thousand miles. Plus i can only go 60 mph without it reving all out.

[Scrappy]

if you can't go over 60 mph without the truck reving completely out your problem is in the trans not the engine.

[nismopu]

I was saying that there hasnt been any honing in my engine ihas seen the day of light internally for 15 years. I dont want to just freshin it up because i want it to run for alot longer than just another 50 or 60 thousand miles. Plus i can only go 60 mph without it reving all out.

Yeah, this is a common misconception that people think these engines were built in 1950 and they are wore out. My friend had a "tired" ka as well until we adjusted the timing, put a new chain on it, and freshened up the seals. Now its a whole new engine! pulls really strong and he is getting 19mpg out of a 4wd with bigger tires. peace.

[jimmy726]

Well maybe i will just take the head off look at everything and get my head redone. Would it be my rings that are leaking oil and blowing it out the ass of my truck or most likely my head. It also sounds like its having a dry start up because the valves tap like hell when i first start it. Then after afew seconds it quiets down and sounds great. Alittle more advise will set me strait. Oh one more thing nismopu you said you adjusted the timing what did you mean you just replaced it or actually did something with it

[nismopu]

advanced the dizzy a bit, actually fully advanced it. lol! Most likely the smoking is from the heads valve seals. peace.

[jimmy726]

So if i got the head redone what else should i do to this beast??? Also im a fat guy in florida my a/c isnt working because the little idler pulley fell off. i have the pulley but the hardware is m.i.a. Can someone post a pic so i can see what i need to make the a/c run

[JsD21HB]

go to the dealer to get the hardware.

[jimmy726]

Going to the deal is that going to cost me an arm and a leg for some dam bolts or it shouldnt be to bad

[JsD21HB]

not that bad i bought a timing chain guide it was like 15 bucks with bolts.

[low96hb]

i think youll be limited to engines between 90 and 95. before then was the z24 series motor (with 8 spark plugs). 96 and 97 will be obdII and might not be compatible with your wiring. if all you need is the short block you might be able to get by.

id look into a rebuild. what exactly is wrong with your current motor?

I hate to ask but what is " obdII "?:confused:

[JsD21HB]

stands for on board diagnostics v2. lot more sensors lot more check engine lights for things that go wrong.

[jimmy726]

Okn so i had a realiable source qoute to rebuild my engine and they said $1200 for the parts and labor. What does everyone think is this a good price or could be cheaper

[purplenissan]

not that bad i bought a timing chain guide it was like 15 bucks with bolts.
I have a 96 4cyl with 140,000 miles. Back on nissanminis, I read a suggestion to replace the timing chain with an updated version asap after 90,000 miles. Is this what you're talking about? I thought they said it'd be more like $100... What would it cost for parts for me to do it and what should it cost for the dealer or a shop to do it?

[95_NISMO_HB]

$1200 seems about average to me... I've seen long blocks go for about $1600 shipped on ebay... not sure if that helps at all.

[syk1]

how about pugz's 01 motor with everything for 1000 obo
http://www.infamousnissan.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2549

[95_NISMO_HB]

2001 Fronty had the DOHC KA right... is the full ECU and harness part of that deal?

[jimmy726]

na man thanks but i just went out and bought a reg ka24e. I wish everyone would of had the de when i need them but whatever
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[niz]

you already got the swap done?

[jdoe44]

It's been 3 months since he originally posted.

[jimmy726]

im fast to the draw man i need something fast. It looks alot better now that i pressure washed it and took shit unneeded shit

[purplenissan]

[It's been 3 months since he originally posted.]

:ninja:...which is why I thought I could pirate it...:thumb:

I have a 96 4cyl with 140,000 miles. Back on nissanminis, I read a suggestion to replace the timing chain with an updated version asap after 90,000 miles. Is this what you're talking about? I thought they said it'd be more like $100... What would it cost for parts for me to do it and what should it cost for the dealer or a shop to do it?

[osupride]

I was about to say that is a ka24 motor not a z24. And the motors in the cars are the same aren't they? it's the way they are turned and the transmissions that are different.

[osupride]

btw you can rebuild one under 1500 and thats with buying a new crank.

[david29]

I have a 97 complete engine KA24E with 147,000 on the od. $650 is the price. Can hear it run. Then all you would have to do is swap the intake manifold and timing chain cover from your engine.
Locally here I got a quote for a long block rebuild of about $875 plus whatever else might be bad not included in the rebuild kit(bad piston, or valve, etc)

I still have those AC PARTS YOU NEED.

[Thor]

yep harness everything...he has a motor swap in the works