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CARfab
01-02-2009, 10:56 PM
As promised, here is a few pics of what i have been up to on my d21.
I have included some stripped interior photos for those who might be interested in seeing whats inside a 4 door.

its the pre-facelift model which had a different/ flat tailgate, different wheel arches,, front guards, grill, lights and bumper, the rest is the same, as far as i know.
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m152/turboseven7/navara/newnavback.jpg

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m152/turboseven7/navara/newnav.jpg

i quickly sold off the disgusting canopy for a case of beer! win/win for me:thumb:

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m152/turboseven7/navara/nocanopy.jpg

and it made it into the bigger garage where the real action happens.
here it is sitting next to my lotus7 replica (last years project which was finished and road registerd, but has been stripped for more changes,

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m152/turboseven7/navara/newhome.jpg

thought that the tub was too small for hauling my bikes/car parts and tools to work, i decided a stretch was in order, the old tub came off and got sawzall'd into small peices and sent off for metal recycling. i completly stripped the rear, i wont be using the diff or fuel tank/ anything past the cab

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m152/turboseven7/navara/tuboff.jpg

found a 95 (updated wheelarch) singlecab tub at my local wreckers (amazing!) they are not all that easy to find, i was expecting a 10 hour drive to get one like i had to for my last tub! and it was cheap too.

also stripped all the front, i wont be using any of the running gear, and will update the front, i dont know what model front i want yet,

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m152/turboseven7/navara/long2.jpg
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m152/turboseven7/navara/longy.jpg

CARfab
01-02-2009, 11:12 PM
chassis needs to stretch 750mm (sorry about the metric)
overall length of the truck should be very close to 5.5m

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m152/turboseven7/navara/tubon.jpg

started to play around with suspension, cut out the bump stops, measured how much i needed to lay on a 4" bd (it has 25° NC :crazy:)

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m152/turboseven7/navara/25degreesnc.jpg

then stripped the whole brown interior out and started to plan the BD.

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m152/turboseven7/navara/strippedout2.jpg
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m152/turboseven7/navara/strippedout3.jpg
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m152/turboseven7/navara/tubon.jpg

got some goodies in the post , just before christmas,
along with all the RHS steel to remake most of the chassis, and the Bodydrop

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m152/turboseven7/navara/bushes.jpg
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m152/turboseven7/navara/spindles.jpg

removed the tub and put it out of the way while i cut down the sills, and crammed some 75x25x4mm rhs in there for strength
and then cut out the floor for the traditional bodydrop.
i went with traditional, because with the stretch, extra load, and im paranoid about stuff being strong enough, i didnt want to reduce the 125mm stock chassis height under the cab.

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m152/turboseven7/navara/RHSsills.jpg
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m152/turboseven7/navara/BD1.jpg
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m152/turboseven7/navara/BDenginebay.jpg
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m152/turboseven7/navara/BD3.jpg

and thats all i really have at the moment, im still finishing off the welding on the bd, and playing with seating heights (and slacking off, it is the holidays afterall!)

more updates as they happen!

nissandoordragger
01-02-2009, 11:29 PM
i really like those front fenders i hate the ones we have make it look like a frekin baja

pugz
01-02-2009, 11:30 PM
looking good so far. i still want a 4dr soon

O.G.Tierdrop
01-02-2009, 11:31 PM
man you sure do move fast...keep the pics comming

and 750mm is about 30 inches fyi

CARfab
01-02-2009, 11:38 PM
and 750mm is about 30 inches fyi


In Australia, an Inch, is about 25.4.........years old :D

nisrod
01-03-2009, 01:18 AM
do those front bumpers come in chrome??

yeti_'87HB
01-03-2009, 01:40 AM
holy man, you went to town on that thing

shavedmax
01-03-2009, 02:04 AM
very nice!

sparkinframe
01-03-2009, 03:22 AM
yeah tho
es bumpers come in crome... i had one on my 92
best pic i have
http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm57/in-graved/hitapole.jpg

CARfab
01-03-2009, 10:49 AM
Thanks for everyones positive comments, i have only been working on this for 6 weeks, but stripping it out and cutting metal is the cheapest part, progress will slow down when the expensive bits need doing:(

Im 99% sure my early pre-facelift model never came with a chrome bumper, i have never seen one, and cant find any aftermarket ones on ebay.com.au, but they do have chrome grilles and corner lamps.

however later aussie d21's (93 onwards, and all years of king cabs) did have a chrome bumper same as sparkinframes on page 1.
http://www.ozeparts.com.au (http://www.ozeparts.com.au/) (under nissan/datsun--navara ute--whatever year you want) has more details and you can also buy the old style guards if thats what you like. unfortunatly i sent the whole front end and tub off to the scrap metal yard, because the early model parts are worthless here.

GutterHXCGrowl
01-03-2009, 11:18 AM
Trucks badass man, keep up the good work!

Wish I had one of those cabs hah

skrchn
01-04-2009, 03:22 AM
looking good bud. moving along nice and quick gunna be a long ass ride thats for sure

PSI-EFX
01-04-2009, 05:37 AM
BADfrickenASS!
Love it bro!

smctoy
01-06-2009, 02:55 AM
sic project!

nissan1995
01-06-2009, 03:43 AM
i love how the a pillars are at a smoother angle than the d21's unless in lookin at it wrong
truck is very awesome, almost makes me want to take a road trip with 20 U.S bux to mexico to get one of those trucks and a little mexican guy named Pepe to keep my yard trimmed lol

cruzin365
01-06-2009, 08:39 PM
i wish they had those over in the states! i love those things... keep it up man!

CARfab
01-13-2009, 05:02 AM
Just a quick update, theres been a whole lot more destruction than there has construction of late. but its all part of the big plan i suppose!

got the body off. slowly.. by myself..
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m152/turboseven7/navara/bodyoff1.jpg
cut the chassis in half (well its farked now! no going back)
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m152/turboseven7/navara/rubbish.jpg
dont need this rubbish anymore...
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m152/turboseven7/navara/rubbish2.jpg
making some room in the garage.
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m152/turboseven7/navara/pileoparts.jpg
all clean now..
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m152/turboseven7/navara/cleangarage.jpg
ready for action!
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m152/turboseven7/navara/readytobuild1.jpg
but not today, because its F'n hot here, 40 outside, 32 inside, at 4pm!
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m152/turboseven7/navara/effenhot.jpg
thanks for everyone's input.

entropyyy
01-13-2009, 06:20 AM
damn,hot in there! looking good though,whats that on the right side of your shop? any more pics/info? looks like fun!

twisted
01-13-2009, 09:39 PM
Looks good!! I am building one here in England, 4 Dr longbed,bodydropped to the doors with a Frontier front end.Will have photos up soon!

shavedmax
01-13-2009, 11:58 PM
wish i was that far along, maybe ill make some progress this weekend. looking good!

homewrecker
01-14-2009, 12:07 AM
How did I mis your build? I love this thing! In the words of paris hilton "That's hawt" lol Now you need to get to work and as do I.
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twisted
01-15-2009, 03:34 PM
Just worked out the lenght of the frame,OMG! :eek:How long it will be!! I won't be able to get it in my Garage!!!

CARfab
01-16-2009, 06:38 AM
Just worked out the lenght of the frame,OMG! :eek:How long it will be!! I won't be able to get it in my Garage!!!


:D how big is ya garage?! i just measured my new rails, and from the towhitch (close to rollpan) to the front where the tension rods are, is 5200mm on the dot. (i shortened mine a bit for if/when i unibody it :cool: )

and entropyy: thats my homemade lotus7 replica, it has a sr20det, it is rather fun, but it needs paint and polish.. theres pics in the "other cars" post.

CARfab
01-19-2009, 06:01 AM
managed to actually build something this past weekend for the truck,
zapped together a couple of rails, still need to fishplate the welds and add a bit of tube work to them, i finished those long welds after this photo was taken. i'll try to get them on the main chassis this weekend.

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m152/turboseven7/navara/newrails.jpg
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m152/turboseven7/navara/newrails2.jpg

sparkinframe
01-20-2009, 03:06 AM
why the dubble frame rales b4 the cab...just strength?

Swschz
01-20-2009, 08:10 AM
maybe "one" rail is going to be a sealed and made into a air tank,easier than making the whole rail air tight and sleeving all penetrations ( think bolts for steering box etc)

Rocket
01-20-2009, 09:06 AM
CARfab, dont try fitting king cab front end, there is a guy on ebay, his ebay account is customrideauto, he sells a whole chrome package from time to time, for the d21, he sells them for king cab and for single cab, give him a buzz

CARfab
01-20-2009, 09:53 AM
the double rails are really only because i couldn't get 125x50mm rhs (the size i needed to sleeve into the existing chassis), extra strenght if any is an added bonus, its not as fancy as it looks!, i do like the idea of a chassis air tank, but i want to use aluminium, chrome or stainless tanks, as a friend of mine had issues with rust in the air lines and valves with a steel tank, maybe because we are near the beach? im not sure, i never had any issues with my last stainless ones.

and rocket, i probably wont be using a d21 front, early d22 is a favorite of mine, but that's been 'done' already. i still have a long time to think about it before i get to panel work.

bring on the weekend, hopfully its not so hot again!

mikev69
01-20-2009, 01:14 PM
looking good keep up the good work were all watching

shavedmax
01-21-2009, 12:20 AM
hopfully its not so hot again!


wish i could say that. it was 5 degress last week(farenheit of course)

twisted
01-21-2009, 10:20 PM
wish I could say the same!! Allday i have been able to see my breath!

<NVRDONE>
02-24-2009, 01:28 AM
hows this project coming ? i want updates! lol

whiteycooper
02-24-2009, 03:08 AM
not to jack your thread but whats stoping us from importing one of these in from s.america besides a little extra cash?

<NVRDONE>
02-24-2009, 05:08 AM
you can get anything shipped over..

its just a bitch getting it registered in the US.


it takes around a 6 month period and alot of $ lol

89miNISSAN808
02-24-2009, 05:47 AM
yeah, just registration
my neighbor brought a chevy truck from washington here to hawaii
its that black chevy truck in transformers
anyway, they told him he needed atleast 1000miles for him to reg and he already has ~1200
in washington, he got a bigger turbo, tuned ecu and other things before coming here
they wanted him to pay 8g to reg
it is the second in hawaii but first crew cab and first 4x4
the one like this but body stock
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0e/Ironhide-movievehicle.jpg

CARfab
03-26-2009, 04:28 AM
sorry for the updates delay!!
all the pics of texmex and other recent shows have got me inspired again, but im sorry to say, not a lot has happened recently on the d21. but these things take time. and i dont want to rush this,
i don't keep cars when im not 100% happy with them, and with the amount of work this thing needs, i DO want to keep this one http://minitruckin.com.au/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif
Im not going to be spending much$$$ on it this year either, there is not alot of building work available around here at the moment,
im still trying to do some work on the house, i still have to keep the tyres upto my daily s14 silvia http://minitruckin.com.au/forum/images/smilies/icon_e_wink.gif and i have to save anything else
for a Japan holiday in august.
BUT! cutting and welding is cheap, so i cut all the 4link and watts brackets from sheet with a grinder, drilled and linished them all by hand, and made the bars
im starting to see where my time has gone! i still can finish the rear end and bodydrop without spending much, which should keep me busy for a while.
here's a quick photo of where its at at the moment, thanks for tuning in!
its looking a bit industrial at the moment, hopfully it will look better once i get the rest of the gear and a bit of tubework in there.
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m152/turboseven7/navara/bushesandtubes.jpg
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m152/turboseven7/navara/4link.jpg
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m152/turboseven7/navara/backend.jpg

Swschz
03-26-2009, 04:39 AM
Sweet,its looking all good.nice reverse watts link.

sparkinframe
03-26-2009, 06:08 AM
looks great.

lil_redd_again
03-26-2009, 10:11 AM
curious...I want to see more angles of this rear set up. Wierdest link bars Ive seen in awhile but, cool nonetheless

Swschz
03-27-2009, 06:56 AM
...how are they weird?

CARfab
03-27-2009, 10:46 AM
...how are they weird?

i agree? can you explain, im no expert at suspension geometry, and im more than open to all the advice i can get, :confused:

its just a parallel 4bar with reversed wattslink.

i just wanted the trailing arms as long as possible, to:

(1) reduce the amount of swing the diff will get through travel, in hope that i wouldn't need a slip joint in the propshaft,, which i still do need, because it has about 18mm over the suspension travel!!

(2) because im running cantilever setup, reduce the amount of umm.. "bend" the airbag will have in the inflated position. if you know what i mean. im not good at explaining things.

Swschz
03-27-2009, 10:50 AM
i think hes refereing to the bars,in the sense that they arnt round,dont have the shiny chrome "super duper pivoty things" on the ends,that you simply used box section, and you havent capped the ends?????

i assume your going to trim and cap the ends?

how are you mounting your bags? a true cantilever or just mechanical advantage?

CARfab
03-27-2009, 11:02 AM
My engineer wanted box section, and the airbag a maximum 1/3rd along the lower arm, from the diff, for strength reasons. and the polyurethane bushes are enormous, bigger than i originally wanted, and will have plenty of flex for any pivoting it may need, while being quiet, a smooth ride, and maintenance free.

i will be capping the ends of the arms, and making them look more attractive, i wanted to make something special of them, but the could be in the way of shock absorber placement now. which is my next adventure on this thing.:)

Swschz
03-27-2009, 11:41 AM
choice man,your onto it.

will be here waiting to see what you do with your shocks.most definatly an adventure

NISLED
03-31-2009, 09:48 AM
lookin sweet brother

Low Toy
04-13-2009, 10:54 PM
Never seen a watts link that wasn't mounted off the centre of the diff, link bars are different too, looks good... Also, did ur engineer say anything about fish plating the joins in the RHS chassis? And any reason why u joined RHS together in front of the diff instead of buying taller RHS?

CARfab
04-16-2009, 07:52 AM
Never seen a watts link that wasn't mounted off the centre of the diff, link bars are different too, looks good... Also, did ur engineer say anything about fish plating the joins in the RHS chassis? And any reason why u joined RHS together in front of the diff instead of buying taller RHS?


yeah, all butt joins must be gusseted or fish plated, having the watts link in "reverse" allows me to adjust the roll center of the rear suspension by changing the center pivot height. it has alot more to do with racecar setup and tech (aussie v8 supercars have an in-cabin ajustable center pivot!) , but that's my other hobby, i couldn't help a bit of it comming through on my truck.

and the original nissan chassis rails were 125x50x2.5mm (ish), and i cant get that size here in RHS, it will be slightly stronger having the 50x50 and 75x50 setup like that anyway, but probably not enough to make a noticable difference.

i should have an update with the shock absorber setup this weekend or next.

:thumb: slow and steady, i'll get there one day!

nemosfate
05-08-2009, 08:16 AM
wow im in love with those trucks! ive been diein to get one, we always get screwed over in the states!

PSI-EFX
05-26-2009, 06:36 AM
Hey mate, just wondering where you and the truck are located in Melbourne? Would love to come have a looksee someday! Lovin IT! Micker

homewrecker
05-26-2009, 06:22 PM
This truck is awesome!!! I don't think you doin a thing wrong, I love it! You plan on pulling a trailer?

wagondragger720
05-26-2009, 07:19 PM
reverse watts is badass

NKLNDYM
06-10-2009, 08:52 PM
Im jealous!!! I love the 4dr hardbody's.. they have em in mexico, ive always wanted to go get me a cab..

tis10w
06-11-2009, 03:55 PM
this thing is sick gives me motivation to build a stretch about time sum one out does twiggz but what i am planing i hope no one as done it is a little crazy and i hope it fits in my small single car garage

NISLED
06-16-2009, 09:41 AM
updates bro?anythin happenin

tis10w
06-19-2009, 01:42 PM
we know there is up dates

Minitucking
06-19-2009, 02:17 PM
Looking good man!

dubs095
06-20-2009, 03:04 AM
are you running a ford discs on the back just looks heaps like mine

sam
06-22-2009, 08:58 AM
ford disks... some1 please tell me how this is achieved.. sounds interesting

tis10w
06-27-2009, 10:08 AM
where the hell is the damn updates

CARfab
07-03-2009, 11:03 AM
sorry everyone, ive been very slack, and lacking motivation and fresh ideas about trucks lately, as I've said before, i want to keep this truck for ever- or close too, so i want it done properly and want it to be everything i have ever wanted in a truck, no shortcuts. i found myself taking a few easy options when i was "not into it", so i have had a break, but im feeling the love again. and I'll put up some updates soon.

on a side note I'll answer a few questions above:

Micker: im in geelong. i do want to get to a few meets soon, i was devastated that i missed the torquay cruise, i only found the post on it a few days after it went down, when there is something interesting to show, i'll welcome anyone around for a beer and a chat. im always looking for more ideas and onions.

homewrecker: this will be my daily drive, it'll have a trailer behind it most days of the week, during the week it will have a carpenters tool trailer for work, on the weekend it will have the car trailer, for play:thumb:

wagondragger& minitucking, thanks a lot for the positive comments, it really does boost the motivation levels.

tislow: i want to know more! it would have to be wide, or a stretched styleside!, but mine is at 5.5-5.7m long will only just fit in a standard garage!! less than 100mm each end!

dubs095 & sam: its a whole e series falcon diff, seriously low ratio (3.01 or somthing) lsd 5lug disc brake, i was going to use the factory watts, but decided to go reverse in the end. (not 100% sure on keeping that yet)

on another note (and the reason for f-all progress on this), ive been practicing front tubbing on my silvia :D
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m152/turboseven7/silvia%20s14/tubs2.jpg
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m152/turboseven7/silvia%20s14/tubs3.jpg
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m152/turboseven7/silvia%20s14/tubs.jpghttp://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m152/turboseven7/silvia%20s14/bonnetofffinished.jpg

88hb
07-03-2009, 05:07 PM
that's a sweet ass set up!!!!! im really diggin the red pulleys!

tis10w
07-03-2009, 05:22 PM
hav a look in my build up i was gonna start cuting this week but i had a fw offers i could not refuse i might be able to hook you up with a few things to give me a pm and we can go from there

CARfab
07-04-2009, 07:19 AM
that's a sweet ass set up!!!!! im really diggin the red pulleys!

if you look close, you'll actually see that they are anodized blue pulleys. but i decided i liked the red theme more and they got painted everywhere where the belt wouldn't run. only a few blue silicone hoses to change, then make it look pretty on the outside, and I'll be happy:)

tis10w
07-04-2009, 08:54 AM
carfab would you like sum tail light fillers and fron corner fillers

pugz
07-04-2009, 03:46 PM
front tubs look good. :D

beaver720
07-04-2009, 04:42 PM
those pulleys look cool red and blue, nice tubs on the silvia u gonna lower it or just build the tubs to keep the tires from rubbing?

CARfab
07-05-2009, 09:16 AM
im not sure if im into tail light fillers, im not really going for the full smooth shaved minitruck look. plus im ages away from bodywork, thanks anyway.

and ive put a few pics in the "other nissan" page of my silv, its already pretty low i want just 1" lower in the front, but i need camber tops, and the wide low offset wheels were scrubbing pretty bad before i lowered it.

Back to some NEW truck updates this week!

tis10w
09-21-2009, 04:43 PM
come on there has to be sumthing done

nemosfate
09-28-2009, 07:09 AM
sylvia tubs look good man

chadcrissdesign
10-07-2009, 04:15 AM
why is all the metal in australia blue? lol jk

sam
10-07-2009, 08:24 AM
you can buy it in painted blue or just plain steel or like galvanised.. depends on your application i guess... i dont think getting it blue is any extra in price... atleast not where i bought steel from last ahha

tis10w
10-08-2009, 03:35 PM
its justa primer they put on it to stop it rusting i usally get dura gal such awsome shit dont rust

IRingTwyce
11-28-2009, 08:27 PM
Need MOAR pics!!

Rocket
11-30-2009, 12:20 PM
moar moar!

sunsetjesse
02-24-2010, 09:52 AM
i feel retarded for being the first one in a long time to say this but i want to c some more pics of watever progress is goin on.

chadcrissdesign
11-25-2010, 05:27 AM
updates???

tis10w
11-25-2010, 06:38 AM
havent herd any thing about this in a long time probably just like all the other aussie trucks that start then dont get finished then they get scraped

dB Zac
11-26-2010, 04:27 PM
I dig that you put the standard cab bed on it but a "hook rail" bed? Do you guys not have the smooth side beds? At least it has the better wheel flares!

Rocket
11-27-2010, 12:31 AM
i had the smooth

tis10w
11-27-2010, 05:20 AM
alot of our dueo cabs and single cabs all have the hook rail i kinda like it it comes in handy when you need to strap bike and stuff down

frankenstretch
12-03-2010, 11:10 PM
Nice work!