1 or 2 piece

[layinframe]

Okay on the hb is it better to run a 1 or 2 piece drive shaft when your bagged. Pros an cons of each an where to get one cheap. Plz help an thanks in advances

[VG30E]

um you got a king cab or standard cab?
king cab = 2 piece
stadard= 1

It would be hell of modifing to change them to the other one

[layinframe]

Why would it be difficult? Shouldn't they be the same length? Should be able to just bolt up? I'm not 4 linked yet I'm mono leafed. Tryin to get it all workin rite so I can get it linked when I get the cash

[ScottXGTR]

Why would it be difficult? Shouldn't they be the same length?

one is longer, hence the need for 2 pieces. you would need to shorten a kingcab shaft to fit onto a regular cab. you would also need a crossmember to mount the carrier bearing on.

the only thing the 2 piece shaft does differently is it moves the articulation point behind the cab. i think someone tried a 1 piece shaft with a extended cab and found that the shaft would hit the cab floor when laid out. he had to cut his floor out to make room.

[VG30E]

^exactly a single cab is to short for a 2 pc. shaft unless you shortened the shaft and added a cross member and a king cab would bind up on a 1 pc without some serious cutting to the floorpan. Plus you would have to take out the cross member and reinforce the cab some how.

[layinframe]

I have a single cab wit a two piece an its either not the right shaft or something BC I can pick it up 6 inches an it knocks the bottom of my cab. When I take off. Is there suppose to be some sort of piece to keep them in the right spot. Pics would help me tons. I bought a hack job when I got this an didn't know it.

[ScottXGTR]

I have a single cab wit a two piece

longbed perhaps? never seen that one

[VG30E]

^me neither I will look em up when I get to work in the morning.
A 2pc in a std cab I have never heard of. You got any pictures?

[ScottXGTR]

i just flipped through the FSM and it doesnt specify which shaft is used on what models.

on a 2 piece shaft tho, where the first and second section meet, there should be a bearing bolted to a crossmember. from what you describe, it sounds like that bearing is either severely shot, or completely missing.

[layinframe]

Its missing. Ill take pics tomorrow. Scotty by any chance you got extra parts layin around?

[VG30E]

I would get some one to watch your shaft as you move the truck slowly. If it is flopping around you have serious issues (unsafe). If you can get pictures I can get you exactly what you need to replace.

[layinframe]

I know its floppin I can feel it when it does. An a new shaft is 310 bucks. Way out my price range. I'm thinkin I can get it from a yard for 50 or SO

[VG30E]

You may only need a center bearing. I wouldn't buy a whole shaft if it is not broken, you would have to more than likely change the bearing and the u-joints any way on a used one.

[yeti_'87HB]

is there a bearing already attached to the shaft, just not attached to any crossmember? casue if there is a bearing, what you can do is check to see if there is any play in the bushing between bearing and the housing by holding the driveshaft and trying to wiggle the housing back and forth. if the bushing and bearing are in good shape, you can just weld a 2" square bar between the frame rails and drill some holes in to to bolt the bearing housing to it. that should get you running safe again...hope the helps

[yeti_'87HB]

you'd have to get an angle finder and measure to make sure that end of the front driveshaft piece is perfectly inline with the transmisson centreline, otherwise you could accidentally build in a vibration cause of incorrect driveline angles

[OLDSCHOOL]

single cab short bed comes with a 2 piece shaft,

[GutterHXCGrowl]

My single cab has the 2 piece drive shaft. I think my truck might be a longbed? not sure though.

Anyway, I will be switching to a 1 piece when I do my 350 swap and body drop. I'll be able to tell you then how much clearance needs to be made on the floor. I am guessing a good bit.

[VG30E]

single cab short bed comes with a 2 piece shaft,
That's what I get for answering posts at school. I looked at my catalog this morning and apparently on D21's only 4wd's have 1 pc shafts and on d21u's the part number for all three are different which suggests different lengths.

[layinframe]

Dpes anyone have a picture of a proper install on a 2 piece? The centr bearing being on an all? It had the braces but they were all lose broken an bent so I took em off can't find anywhere that sells em!

[GutterHXCGrowl]

I won't be using mine, so if you tell me what part you need I would be glad to help you out.

[$krap_IN_flesh]

ya mine is a standard cab short bed with a 2 piece. that I just changed the carrier bearing out of in august

[layinframe]

http://i488.photobucket.com/albums/rr248/layinframe4u/SU1HMDAwMDUuanBn.jpgmy drive shaft notice it sittin on the cross member in da middle? That's where my problem is now when I do a link is it better to keep this one or do a single?

[layinframe]

Bump I need help

[ScottXGTR]

looking at the pic, it looks like part of the bearing might still be on the shaft. the carrier bearing comes apart. on the shaft there is the actual bearing with a large rubber donut around it. this "rubber donut" is bolted to the crossmember the shaft is currently laying on with 2 pieces of steel that form a bracket. one flat piece on the bottom, another horse shoe shaped going over the top.

[ScottXGTR]

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a307/scottxgtr/carreier.jpg

[layinframe]

Scotty you rock! The upper an lower brackets were twisted so I took em off. They weren't doin anything anyway. VG30 got a price on that?

[VG30E]

I'll get you one.

[$krap_IN_flesh]

oh shit you took out the carrier bearing bracket ya that would give you some problems.

[VG30E]

The upper bearing holder (part # 37508-01G00) would cost you 6.00
The lower bearing holder (part # 37509-01G00) would cost you 3.00
plus like 2-3 bucks for shipping.

[layinframe]

Thanks guys. Scotty what kinda book did you get that put of?

[ScottXGTR]

Thanks guys. Scotty what kinda book did you get that put of?
Nissan factory service manual. some model years are available for download from phatg20.net

[IThaJokaI]

Just read the first page, but I also have a 2 piece shaft in a single cab.

[layinframe]

okay guys i went to the pull a part and got a drive shaft from an automatic where mine is a standard... what is the lenght of the standard drive ahst vs the automatic?? the one i pulled was shorter than the one in my truck by an inch... but, i think mine was 2 long by it wouldnt lay straight.. need help asap

[layinframe]

How do I take the carrier bearing off the shaft TO replace it? Got the shaft took apart, but can't get the bearing off. HELP

[$krap_IN_flesh]

heard people have done it with a hammer but I pressed mine off and on

[layinframe]

Press it how? Any pics

[jaxon23]

Mine is 2 peice aswell on my 2wd standard cab short bed and on a 4cyl DS the ujoints are pin shot so they are not replaceable, found that out the haed way. anyway i ordered one from a junk yard and they sent me one out of a V6 and it fit perfect except for trimming the sheild on the tranny and it has servicable u joints. just some FYI

[lilFlip]

If you want to spend some money to eliminate issues in the future, go to a shop that can rebuild your driveshaft and tell them to put in replaceable chevy ujoints. I had mine rebuilt (belongs to a fellow club member now), but they put in replaceable chevy ujoints for the future. They said if anything is likely to go wrong it would now be the ujoints which are pretty cheap to replace.

[layinframe]

I need TO know how TO get the center bearing off. I have the shaft took apart but can't get the bearing off

[layinframe]

Bump... Need help an kinda detailed description would help!

[IThaJokaI]

You need to use a press, and press the bearing off. Or have a shop with a press do it for you. Its pretty self explanatory really.

[nickd]

yeah its a pain in the ass to get off. my tech used his press to do mine. if the new drive shaft is 1 inch shorter thats a good thing, when bagged a hardbody's drive shaft needs to be shortened due to changing the pinion angle, the drive shaft ends up pushing into the trans causing a lot of damage.

[layinframe]

Note TO self: center bearings are expensive, hard 2 get on an off, an a pain in the nuts TO mess with

[scr8pnHard]

You could, I wouldn't want to but if you have no other way you can heat it up and knock it out, After doing this to put the new bearing in you will need to put it in the freezer and let it get cold then when it is very cold you can heat the center bearing assembly and drop the new bearing in. This is a cheap way of doing it and sometime if you don't no what your doing you will mess up but it is a fast way.

[Fubar4774]

I could not get mine off using a hammer. My brother ended up doing it while I was at work. I believe he used a harmonic balencer puller. I know its not the ideal tool but it worked. Once he got the campanion flange off he said the bearing came off fairly easily.

[Kinyo]

I would not know :D - my 1990 hardbody standard cab with 2piece drive shaft is registered as a king cab :D

(so this all confuses the hell out of me right about now!!!!)

As for the carrier bearing I took out the whole drive shaft to the slip yolk, put it on a vise and...- To get the bearing off i just cut it off (v-notched it n tapped it off with a hammer the rest of the way)--- I just used a big ass bullet shell and a rubber mallet and pressed it in that way.

(I got sick and tired of rollin down the interstate...letting off the gas and hearing the sound of death under my feet! - but it's an easy fix, an hour if that)

[TheMistah]

i have a 1 piece driveshaft on my std cab i used 2 have a 2 piece, i lowered my truck that put pressure on the carrier bearing with time it mest it up...my advice 2 u is to have a driveline shop do it its not expensive and it will save u headaches plus u still need to balance the shaft to make sure u wont get any vibrations.

[TheMistah]

oh and i also got it shortened 1 inch.