engine driven compressor....

[slammed97]

can u run an edc and still keep the stock a/c....and if anyone has any pics of a setup on a hardbody id like to see them.....also what all do i need besides the compressor itself...which is a decent one to run etc....

[TwIzTeDfRoNtIeR]

man ive always been told that u can keeep your ac, but know when the ac is on and the compressor running your goin to have a lot of lag. i have a york um cant rember the size. its universal v belt and the last truck i drove with one of those had either a 5 or 8gal tank and i hit switches all day and never missed a lick. i may be willing to sell mine and all the hardware if u wanna shoot me a price. im doing a motor swap

[zach]

i run a york edc too, got it from hoh keeps my 12 gallon tank full. from 110 to 200psi at 60mph is like 9 seconds, sitting still mabye 30 seconds. i wouldnt run a edc and ac comp on the same motor personally for the same money you could run 3-4 viars and a kinetic battery. :thumb:

[slammed97]

well i live intexas and goin without a/c is not an option, so i guess ill stick with electric compressors....

[vidraggin]

I wonder what would happen if you used the stock nissan compressor. I am curious if you used an oiler similar to an air tool oiler if it would work. Seems like it would be a little more maintenance than a york, but yorks have to be maintained as wel right?

[Scrappy]

vidraggin, I have heard of a few people that've pulled that off

[red`94]

I wonder what would happen if you used the stock nissan compressor
this has been done, you need an oiler and to hardline it for about a foot so the line doesnt melt. Not sure if it has been done to see how long it would last though.

[Crash]

One of the guys on NC said he was at 11 months and still going strong with no oiler. I wouldn't try it unless you really wanted to for the heck ot it.

[autotrader]

i am running a sanden 508 like this
http://www.kilbyenterprises.com/images/OBA-cat-schematic.jpg

[Dragndoor94]

i tried running a stock a/c compressor it lasted about 4 seconds and got smoked lol... I was running a york 210 on my dime i loved the speed it filled... Now that i did the 350 swap i'm either gonna go back to an edc or an oasis xd 3000...but i would need a second battery for an xd i think

[Swschz]

isnt an oasis just a york mated to a electric motor with a cover over it and one hell of a price tag?

[Supermachine]

isnt an oasis just a york mated to a electric motor with a cover over it and one hell of a price tag?

yup, pretty much
i ran a york on my silverado, i had 16gallons and it was the SHIT
it was the air commander kit from airlift.. i'll be trying to wedge an EDC onto my 720 once i get it bagged.
and theres quite a few guys on the s10forum running the stock a/c sanden type compressors with good luck.

[Dragndoor94]

isnt an oasis just a york mated to a electric motor with a cover over it and one hell of a price tag?


yeah it is,but i don't think i can fit an edc on my block cause i would have to run it on the drivers side of the motor. And i couldn't fit my altenator of there so something double the size won't fit either. The steering box gets in the way

[Jokr]

i know where i can get a edc but what about where can i get a pulley and mounting hardware for it

[Crash]

You can get on from autozone from a like 81 Ford truck, i bought mine from guage mag. It's a little more expensive i think when i went through gauge.

[xmb63]

I have my stock ac and a edc, it is mounted sideways above the distributor running off the power steering belt. one thing with running them sideways is you need a compressor with the suction port on the top. if its on the bottom all the oil leakes out of it. ill try to get you a picture tomorrow if i get a chance.

with the ac on and the edc running its not too bad of a lag on the motor its definatly noticable but not that bad

[Swschz]

got any pics xmb63?

what motor you running?

[xmb63]

Here are a few pics i used the stock belt tensioner. I had to do the oil mod to my compressor because i couldnt find one t the junk yard with the inlet on the left side.
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c317/xmb63/1103081211.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c317/xmb63/1103081212.jpg

[xmb63]

Its the ka24 motor here is 1 more
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c317/xmb63/1103081211a.jpg

[xmb63]

I know it needs a filter i havent got aroundto putting one on yet.

[thatboi_j]

Ok...so the line on top (brass fitting) is the air out? What are the 2 lines on the side? What are you using as a oiler? Also what about the belt...is that the stock nissan belt? If not, what did you get it from?

[xmb63]

The line on the top is the crankcase breather. I had to do the oil mod because my intake is the bottom port and if its not done it will leak all the crankcase oil out of the intake port. If the crankcase isnt vented then it forces the oil past the pistons and into your air tank.

The 2 lines on the side are the intake and the output.

There is no need for a oiler on a your compressor but the pipe plug on the left side is to fill the crankcase oil.

No the belt is not the nissan belt i just took a piece of rope down to the autoparts store and was like can i go back and look at your belts and found one that matched my piece of rope.

[thatboi_j]

So you ran the line with the brass fitting to the engine crankcase? I am not seeing the oil fitting. Also...you are saying that I shouldn't get one like yours? Cause you said the suction needs to be on top? Did you mean intake? I am bordenline brain dead today :( thank you for all of your help

[slammed97]

what is this mod u speak of so the oil wont run out....

[Swschz]

this :http://www.rockcrawler.com/techreports/york_mod/index.asp

[xmb63]

So you ran the line with the brass fitting to the engine crankcase? I am not seeing the oil fitting. Also...you are saying that I shouldn't get one like yours? Cause you said the suction needs to be on top? Did you mean intake? I am bordenline brain dead today :( thank you for all of your help

The line with the brass fitting is ran to the firewall it is just a breather without it oil was splashing out.
mine the ports are reversed so you should with the intake port on the top and the output on the bottom. Mine works fine with the oil mod if i was buying one new i would have gotten the one with the ports on the proper sides but this one was 20$ from the junk yard.

[thatboi_j]

So any 81 ford truck will work? I was looking around and found a re-manufactured comp for $70 shipped to my house. What is yours from xmb?

[xmb63]

So any 81 ford truck will work? I was looking around and found a re-manufactured comp for $70 shipped to my house. What is yours from xmb?

Yea i had one i pulled off of a ford bronco a while back and the ports were opposite mine. The one i got in my truck now is from a winabego and i got another that imma put in my civic when i get the bags on it that is from a older volvo. The one i had in my s10 was from an older audi.

[JsD21HB]

wait. soo u can use an a/c compressor as an air compressor? that might sound dumb but i have never really looked into the whole bagging my truck shit too much. yeah im gonna get flamed for that but i am lacking knowledge in that part im more into the performance go fast shit.

[thatboi_j]

Js...that what this whole thred is about. No flame spraying here...i'm the one asking 4 million questions lol

[xmb63]

wait. soo u can use an a/c compressor as an air compressor? that might sound dumb but i have never really looked into the whole bagging my truck shit too much. yeah im gonna get flamed for that but i am lacking knowledge in that part im more into the performance go fast shit.

Yea there are 2 types people use the sanden and the york. the sanden is a rotary type compressor that needs a oiler at the intake port. I have never used one of this type of compressor im not very fimilar with them. Then there is the york which is a piston type compressor that has crankcase oil and no need for an inline oiler.

[JsD21HB]

i got a spare 240sx one can i use that? or should i try and find a bronco one, we got a pretty bad ass pick and pull by me.

[xmb63]

It may work or it might just burn up never messed with the rotary style compressors. But the york is the way to go imo. I have never ran electric compressors in any of the 3 bagged trucks ive owned. From watching others wait for their tank to fill edc is definately way faster.

[mad max]

doe sany one know of a company that sells the bracket to mount the edc i cant seem to find one

[$krap_IN_flesh]

don't know of any that sale one. mainly just fab one

[chopndroptx]

Anyone tried these brackets? Or are you making them yourself?

http://streetridepro.com/product_info.php?cPath=198_201&products_id=3113

[xmb63]

I like the caption
"800-842-8789 Engine Brackets to fit your engine. You must be very mechanically inclined to install this option."

[97xenissan]

ok so if i cant find one with the suction on the correct side couldnt i just make a suction tube like an _l with the filter on top so that it was above the oil level in the crankcase? or would it still leak out?

[xmb63]

No that wont work. If you do that all the oil will leak from the crankcase into the intake chamber and when you kick the compressor on it will suck the oil right through the system. Old ford trucks have them with the ports on the correct sides. Or you can pull the head and plug the little oil hole. Thats what I did works fine but if you do this you have to vent the crank case or you will pass a ton of oil through your system.

[97xenissan]

ok so from what i understand i would need a lefthand suction, so when layed on its side the intake would be above the discharge side, right

[xmb63]

Here are a bunch of pictures when I had my front clip torn off for the body drop
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c317/xmb63/first007.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c317/xmb63/first001.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c317/xmb63/first002.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c317/xmb63/first003.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c317/xmb63/first004.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c317/xmb63/first005.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c317/xmb63/first006.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c317/xmb63/first008.jpg

[xmb63]

I moved the tensioner pulley from where it is in the pics to between the crank pulley and the edc pulley because of the body drop.

[Otto347]

I did this on a truck a few years ago. Its a york 209 (if I remember right) Everything fit under the stock hood but if the truck was getting body dropped it might be a different story.

http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/60/l_793b35d80b75279aa3baaf8ef1c0585f.jpg

http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/56/l_0f923f9b41ab0502e7811c6911a609ff.jpg



http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=198107547&albumID=927203&imageID=13812070

[xmb63]

I had alot of room before the body drop. But after 5" of body drop its fun to try to fit everything under a stock hood.

[Swschz]

Does Anybody run a Sanden pump?Any thoughts/opinions about them?

Me and a mate scored some for cheap at a local wrecker and there seems to be heaps around compared to the yorks

[xmb63]

If you use a sanden do the grease mod to it. I think I might try to run a sanden on my s10 when I build it.
http://www.grungle.com/endlessair.html

[sam]

does anyone no what kind of ac compressor comes on toyota motors? im halfway through putting a toyota v8 in my navara and i was going to use the stock toyota ac comp to pump tanks when i bag it...

any ideas?

[Swschz]

just run the stock one on the v8.

[sam]

dont stock ones usually burn out real quick?

[Swschz]

i wouldnt know, trial and error,

im assuming its a 1uz? do some research and see if anyone else has used their stock pump.

either that or slap a sanden in there.should take up about the same amount of room.

anway,got some pics of ya conversion?

[sam]

ill try and take some pics this weekend... might make a build up or sumthin.

[damnbump]

if you run an inline oiler on the intake and keep oil in it the stock ac compressor will last forever

[onelozu]

where do you get the oiler? the edc i had i just did the grease mod and always had grease in my tank and valves

[DHPmike]

the best oiler Ive found is an air tool oiler. the preferred ones are the adjustable ones. They have a clear plastic case and a brass screw to turn and adjust the oil going in.

its best to use an inline oiler on the inlet side and a seperator on the outlet side. Plus if its a York, be sure and do the oil mod.

man I had one on my Mazda, the frame was the air tank. It would come on at 145 psi and go off at 175 psi, 8 seconds is all the time it was on...

[ldblk_d21]

you can also take a york and got to your local auto parts store and get one of those hundred dollar winch's for a 4x4. and make an oasis

[dwhitley77]

Does the winch turn fast enough?

[bagged_Ese]

you can also take a york and got to your local auto parts store and get one of those hundred dollar winch's for a 4x4. and make an oasis
please enlighten us with ur thought this sounds interesting

[DHPmike]

basically an Oasis has an electric motor like a starter motor and it turns the York. The only drawback is they use hella power and need a very large cable for power.

Plus they cant run a long time before getting hot and killing a battery. good for a driver but not if you play with the bags alot.

[Roadkill1260]

just picked up a 77 ford f150 ranger with a 460 big block, in the midst of a carb rebuild im bolting it back on and i happen to look over, YORK 210, porsts are on the correct side and the ac still works! just pulled it today, i just installed a/c in my 86 HB this summer so ditching it is bitter, i like the idea above the distributor, however i have an 8plug motor<<fuckng emissions>>so my ditributor is massive but ill check spacing tomorrow at work to see if it will fit and ill let you guys know

[DRAFTEDDESIGN]

This is a beautiful idea. I had a bright idea to call down to the local Advance Auto Parts store to check on the price of a new compressor. $422!!!!!!!:eek: A remanufactured one is $210, and I have to buy 2 other pieces(the expander and the collector) in order to get the company's 1 yr warranty.:crazy: I guess the junkyard had better be offering up the good stuff!!

[xmb63]

That's crazy I just picked one up a few weeks ago for 12$ from the junk yard.

[DRAFTEDDESIGN]

is there anyway to see if the compressor is good before bringing it home? I know you can turn the pulley to see if its locked up. Any common problem areas? Would the factory hose assembly be usable, or do they have to be replaced with heavier duty plumbing?

[$krap_IN_flesh]

I had a hose made cause the threads in the compressor are different than those into my water trap. I have a local shop that makes custom hydraulic lines.

[JunYa]

I had oriellys make me. Me a line for mine

If you want to check one just make sure one side sucks good and the other push out air. I bought one didn't know how to check them tested the clutch and brought it home and it didn't work. I did some research before I bought the next one lol.

[DRAFTEDDESIGN]

I looked online, and my local pullapart yard has 17 ford trucks in stock from the mid 70's to through the late 80's. Any idea what years came equipped with these york compressors?

[JunYa]

Most 70 model fords.

[estetic]

found this list a while ago -

http://d.pr/NEyZ

[DRAFTEDDESIGN]

You just saved me a ton of poking around under hoods. :woot:That could've gotten very frustrating, very quick.:bang:

[Roadkill1260]

ok, well im gearing up for the install, no pics yet, still hhave to fab a bracket, ive poked around on off road forums and found that you can drill and tap the inner of the ports to accept a 3/8 street fitting, local hydraulic shop will make me a hose for aroudn $27, using a standard water trap, i am having trouble finding a gasket kit for the york, and i did do the oil mod, even though my suction port is on top, i will post pics when i can.

[jcjcsoccerkid]

yea man do that...i'm gonna try to do mine sometime in the off-season

[Crash]

That was how i did my old york 210, i pulled the head, drilled and tapped the ports foro 1/2" NPT and just threaded a fitting in there. Worked good for me and now its on VG30's truck..

[Roadkill1260]

Ok got the bracket made and working on the tensioner now but u can still do this with ac and an 8 plug distributor, here's what i got
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn245/roadkill1260/3dd88f09.jpg
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn245/roadkill1260/42931c08.jpg
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn245/roadkill1260/739bfcc0.jpg
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn245/roadkill1260/28c3e884.jpg
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn245/roadkill1260/527e6dd0.jpg
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn245/roadkill1260/7649a7da.jpg
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn245/roadkill1260/41b4e7ca.jpg
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn245/roadkill1260/3059e8f8.jpg
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn245/roadkill1260/b50b1be2.jpg

[Roadkill1260]

Moar pics to come, installing a summit cooler takes 1/2npt
Fittings to help cool it before the watertrap to help keep water out of my
Tank

[Roadkill1260]

Just got the tensioner done here's pics before paint,
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn245/roadkill1260/ef4cb290.jpg
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn245/roadkill1260/071c2b98.jpg
Tensioner
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn245/roadkill1260/37e0b724.jpg
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn245/roadkill1260/bdbb5f27.jpg
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn245/roadkill1260/045227b2.jpg

[jcjcsoccerkid]

that looks awesome, how fast is it?

[Crash]

That bracketry work looks amazing!! nice job. jcjcsoccerkid, those yorks haul ass.. my 12 gal in my fronty would do 0-175 in about 1 minute at about 2500 rpm..